Re: FC4 good new tech, bad legacy support

From: Christofer C. Bell (christofer.c.bell_at_gmail.com)
Date: 06/30/05

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To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@redhat.com>

    On 6/29/05, Scot L. Harris <webid@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
    >
    > I must have missed the part where you said you were testing things. I
    > read your statement above "I like and want to use Linux, not spend hours
    > working out problems in getting it to work." to mean that you wanted a
    > stable release to run your software on. I recommended Centos as a
    > viable option to that end.

    While the rest of your post is not in the same tone, I feel this sort
    of "if you want stability go somewhere else" responce disappointing
    from many members of this mailing list. It seems there are a lot of
    folks who like to take the "Fedora as testbed" stance to an extreme.
    The operating system is not advertised as "unstable" and it shouldn't
    be viewed as such. The recent selinux mistake is understandable as
    all previous patches are nominally understood to be applied before a
    new one is (and under these conditions, the selinux issue doesn't
    occur in my understanding).

    The Fedora "Objectives" page[1] does state:

    * "Provide a robust development platform for building software,
    particularly open source software." - Implies some modicum of
    stability.

    * "Establish and implement technical standards for packages to ensure
    quality and consistency of the operating system." - A clear nod to
    stability.

    * "Create an environment where third party packages are easy to add
    and positive encouragement and support exists for third party
    packaging." - Stability is required for this goal to be met.

    * "Form the basis of Red Hat's commercially supported operating system
    products." - Poor quality assurance in Fedora implies poor quality
    assurance in Red Hat Enterprise Linux, so poor quality assurance in
    Fedora better not be happening (and I don't think it is).

    * Fedora does not want to be "a dumping ground for unmaintained or
    poorly designed software." - This also implies a robust quality
    assurance process.

    Yes, Fedora is "the basis of Red Hat's commercially supported
    operating system products" and thus it's a moving target -- but this
    does not imply that a given release is to be viewed as unstable or
    that people who experience problems should be told to go elsewhere for
    their Linux experience or to "suck it up and deal."

    As for the person that said it's advertised on Fedora's page that
    users can expect to run into show stopping issues with regularity, I'm
    hard pressed to find that anywhere on the site. Do you have a pointer
    to it? (Hint: It's not there because it's not in Red Hat's interest
    to discourage people from using their software).

    [1] http://fedora.redhat.com/about/objectives.html 

    -- 
Chris
"With the way things are starting to go in this country, if forced to
choose between being caught with a van full of pirated DVDs or heroin
you'd actually have to pause and think about it." -- Michael Bell,
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