Re: SHRED for EXT3?

From: Anthony J Placilla (anthony_placilla_at_SUTH.COM)
Date: 07/26/05

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    Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:23:01 -0400
    
    

    On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 13:41 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote:
    > On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 13:09, Laurence wrote:
    > > On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 08:09 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
    > > > Mike McCarty wrote:
    > > > > Is there a secure file delete available for ext3 file systems?
    > > > >
    > > > > Mike
    > > >
    > > > Possibly encrypt the data in the first place?
    > > >
    > > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6481
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Robin Laing
    > > >
    > >
    > > how about opening the file & writing zeros to it?
    >
    > I don't remember the specs but there are specifications published by the
    > U.S. Government for what constitutes secure deletion of files from
    > magnetic media. This requires a certain number of rewrites over the
    > same sectors the file was in and I think a specific set of patterns.
    >
    > Over writing a file once is usually not sufficient. There are residual
    > traces of what was written to the drive that with the right tools can be
    > recovered in some cases.
    >
    > Of course if you are disposing of a hard drive the only secure method of
    > disposal is to take a hammer to it. A few years ago a study was
    > conducted where they bought used hard drives from ebay. A variety of
    > recovery methods were used and the researchers were able to recover a
    > wide variety of personal information including SSNs, credit cards, etc.
    > on a significant number of the drives purchased.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Scot L. Harris
    > webid@cfl.rr.com
    >
    > No matter what happens, there is always someone who knew it would.
    >

    The US Department of Defense clearing standard is DOD 5220.22-M
    Peter Gutmann wrote a paper for USENIX that addresses this. Available
    at:
    http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/sec96/full_papers/gutmann/

    Some F/OSS option to erase data at this level are
    Darik's Boot and Nuke
    http://dban.sourceforge.net/

    Wipe
    http://wipe.sourceforge.net/

    However the only tried & true methods of being sure the data can't be
    recovered is either longterm exposure of the media in question to
    temperatures in excess of 1500 degrees C (oxy-acetylene works fine) or
    multiple applications of high velocity lead slugs at medium range

    As an added benefit, both serve to relieve stress & frustration :-)

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