Re: broken VIM update on FC3??

From: Paul Howarth (paul_at_city-fan.org)
Date: 08/12/05

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    Tony Nelson wrote:
    > At 8:14 AM +0100 8/12/05, Paul Howarth wrote:
    >
    >>On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:29 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:
    >
    > ...
    >
    >>>But why was [vimrc.rpmnew] created anyway? I'd have thought that there
    >>>would be at least minimal merge logic which would not make .rpmnew files
    >>>when the file would be identical with the original.
    >>
    >>My understanding of the logic for configuration files in package updates
    >>is:
    >>
    >>if old-rpm-config-file is identical to new-rpm-config-file
    >>then
    >> leave the installed-config-file unchanged
    >>elsif installed-config-file is identical to old-rpm-config-file
    >>then
    >> install new-rpm-config-file
    >>elsif config file marked (noreplace) in rpm package
    >>then
    >> install new-rpm-config-file as new-rpm-config-file.rpmnew
    >>else
    >> rename installed-config-file installed-config-file.rpmsave
    >> install new-rpm-config-file
    >>endif
    >>
    >>Given that vimrc has not changed over many releases, one might expect
    >>that vimrc.rpmnew files shouldn't get created, but they always do. I
    >>believe that the reason for this is that /etc/vimrc is included in both
    >>the vim-minimal and vim-common; there's no conflict between these two
    >>packages because the vimrc file is the same in both packages, but rpm
    >>seems to create the .rpmnew file anyway.
    >
    >
    > Thanks, Paul. I see the (noreplace) in the spec file. I don't think I
    > quite understand subpackages yet.

    All a subpackage is is a separate binary package built from the same
    source/spec at the same time. So for instance there's zlib and
    zlib-devel, both built from the zlib src.rpm. The -devel package
    contains various things that not all users of zlib will need, so it's
    broken out into a subpackage so that those bits don't need to be
    installed unless you actually need them. As far as RPM itself is
    concerned, once the subpackages are built, they're entirely separate
    packages with no relationship between them (though it's usually the case
    that the packager will specify in the spec file that one depends on the
    other, e.g. you can only install zlib-devel if you have zlib installed).

    Paul. 

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