RE: Linux killer!

From: Antonio Olivares (olivares14031_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 10/31/05

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    --- "STYMA, ROBERT E (ROBERT)" <stymar@lucent.com>
    wrote:

    > >
    > > If they are not supposed to be watching the videos
    > on the school
    > > computers, then block them at the firewall as our
    > business
    > > does. When
    > > they cannot watch them on Windows it won't make
    > any difference.
    > >
    > I think the point is that if Linux is to make a
    > bigger dent in the
    > Windows desktop, more things have to "just work".
    > In a similar experiment
    > to the one which started this thread, I slowly
    > converted a non-technical
    > family with three computers from windows to Linux
    > and recorded the
    > issues which came up.
    >
    (http://www.swlink.net/~styma/LinuxForTheMasses.shtml)
    > The current distributions of Linux still need a
    > technical person
    > to get things working. The technical person would
    > still have no clue
    > as to how to get these things working. Many of them
    > require a fair
    > amount of research on the web. I understand the
    > reasons mp3's and
    > wmv's don't play right out of the box, but to get
    > "Joe Sixpack" using
    > Linux requires an update process simple enough for
    > "Joe Sixpack" to
    > use to get this functionality working.
    >
    > If making Linux really simple is not working out,
    > another model might
    > be to have pay subscriptions to remote maintenance
    > services. The FC3
    > and FC4 boxes I maintain for my friends I can access
    > remotely via
    > SSH and VNC. On a Windows box, if tech support
    > cannot talk you through
    > the problem, the user ends up taking the box in and
    > paying big bucks.
    > ssh, /etc/hosts.allow, and iptables could provide a
    > very effective support
    > mechanism. On my friends boxes, I am the only one
    > with the root password,
    > not that they would understand what root was anyway.
    >
    > Just my 2 cents worth. My point is that Linux needs
    > to be simple in
    > addition to being better.
    >
    Agreed, but like the quote from Euclid "There is no
    royal path in Mathematics", I would also compare this
    to linux
    "There is no royal path to Linux". Make it Fedora,
    Mandrake, Mepis, Debian, Knoppix, Kanotix, etc., There
    is a learning curve and actually, the more you learn
    the better and more technical you become. I have
    switched some of my friends to Linux, but actually
    they do not care how things work, they just want to
    hear mp3's and watch videos. With Mplayer + mplayer
    plugin, we have been very successful with the
    exception of yahoo music. However, I tell my friends
    and my students to just listen to streaming video from
    shoutcast.com, and bypass yahoo music and yahoo music
    videos.

    Best Regards,

    Antonio
    >
    > Bob Styma
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