Re: WiSH X10 Device Drivers?

From: Michael H. Warfield (
Date: 11/08/05

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    On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 09:16 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
    > On Tuesday 08 November 2005 01:00, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
    > >Chris Spencer wrote:
    > >> I noticed the WiSH drivers for X10 home automation devices
    > >> ( don't appear to be normally included in
    > >> any distributions, including Fedora. Is there a reason for this? Is
    > >> WiSH still too immature, or are X10 devices too exotic to include
    > >> support for? What's the general procedure on getting device drivers
    > >> included in Fedora?
    > >>
    > >> Chris
    > >
    > >If it doesnt require patches and is a standalone software, you can
    > >package it in Fedora Extras
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >If it requires patches, encourage the developers to submit it and get
    > >it included in the upstream project. For the kernel the procedure is
    > >documented in

    > I've been using 'heyu' with 'xtend' for years. One can write some
    > pretty sofisticated programs with them. I change my configuration on
    > how the exterior lights are controlled 3 times a day. This stuff is
    > all standalone, needing only the support for your serial ports in the
    > kernel.

            He's not talking about heyu or xtend. Wish (aka x10dev) is an entirely
    different project that maps the x10 address space into a set of devices
    in /dev. It's the only one of the three with actually kernel level
    device drivers.

            The older wish/x10dev stuff (1.x for the 2.4 and earlier kernels)
    required patches and a kernel rebuild. I contributed a bit to getting
    the newer (2.x) version working as an external compile of the kernel
    modules. Consequently, the latest versions do NOT require patching the
    kernel and DO compile just nicely against the 2.6 -devel packages.

            There are advantages and disadvantages to both packages (heyu and
    x10dev - xtend is mostly a macro supporting package which can run
    independently from heyu). Wish/x10dev does not support timers or some
    of the onboard intelligence of the CM11A and similar controllers.
    OTOH... It DOES support the PowerLinc controllers (serial and USB)
    which the heyu project decidedly does NOT. Heyu does not involve any
    device drivers, which is both a plus and a minus. X10dev splits the
    units and housecodes out so you can create very diverse packages of
    multiple scripts. But it doesn't support some of the finer grained
    capabilities of Heyu (like extended codes).

            To turn a device off in heyu:

            heyu turn a10 off

            To turn a device off in X10dev:

            echo off > /dev/x10/a10

            Whole housecodes can be independently monitored just by cat'ing their
    device in x10dev:

            cat /dev/x10/a

            Or the whole controller by:

            cat /dev/x10/status

            Heyu becomes a problem when you are trying to deal with contention and
    multiple scripts and commands and access.

            I use them both depending on application. I wish I could set up
    wish/x10dev with a "raw" interface that would then allow heyu to
    communicate directly with the controller through x10dev. That would
    give me the best of both possible worlds for the CM11A controllers.
    Even better would be if x10dev could translate from heyu to the
    PowerLinc devices (which, IMHO, are superior controllers to the ones
    from X10 corp).

            IAC... All three packages, heyu, xtend, and x10dev would be
    appropriate candidates for extras.

    > >
    > >
    > >regards
    > >Rahul
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