Re: From release notes for FC5T3 (web)





--- Tony Molloy <tony.molloy@xxxxx> wrote:

On Thursday 09 March 2006 15:35, Les Mikesell wrote:

Having been through all this already on another list
I'v stayed out of
this thread. But here goes. ;-)

On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 09:05, Tony Heaton wrote:
There absolutely should be any easy way to
check all of the boxes
you could check manually. This isn't the same
as the old everything
install, but should be close enough.

There's no way to do that, You just go through them
1 by 1. And it's not
the same as an everything install. I did it with
FC5-T2 and found there
were over 800 packages from the iso's not installed
even though I checked
everything manually.


You've just made the point for the other side.
Even if you have an
everything button it doesn't/can't install
everything because come
things conflict with others.

Not with a new release, FC1-4 just installed
everything when you asked it.
No conflicts that I can remember. Even when you did
an NFS install from
an updated tree.

FC-5 has problems with GFS package conflicts and
some others but that's a
distribution problem not a problem with an
everything install.


Something that was never a problem for all the
previous versions
that did have an 'everything' choice whose only
problem was
installing all of the languages even though you
had already
selected the one you wanted at an earlier install
step...


That's exactly right. What would be very useful is
an "Everything Install"
that installed everything but only the languages and
locales you have
choosen.

But this battle has already been lost on another
list ;-(

The battle was never lost, it just had no chances to
begin with. They(Fedora Developers) were going to do
away with the "Everything Install" anyway. The
arguments for and against it were discussed, but the
end result was the same. When Fedora Core 5 comes
out, I wonder how many people are going to complain
about exactly this issue?

Too many clicks to install everything per group and in
the end, everything was not installed**?

I just hope that they do not drop tetex, and tetex*
from the base cd's/dvd. Yum installing tetex, would
probably take a long time through dialup.

Many things are getting fixed, while other things are
done away with. It is hard to please everyone.

Regards,

Antonio


Tony

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Tony Molloy.

Dept. of Comp. Sci.
University of Limerick

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