Re: kde in extras - the devel discussion

On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 10:26 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
Ralf Corsepius wrote:

On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 08:45 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
Ralf Corsepius wrote:

On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 14:26 +0100, Paul Howarth wrote:

1. Extras really should not be regarded as a "second class citizen" to
Core in the first place, and

I wouldn't be sure. Though I on one hand agree that RH's work on KDE
has not been a "proof of exellence", on the other hand, I think, a
couple of overly ambitious KDE hackers in Extras could be harmful.

2. It would be maintained in Extras by the same people that brought
you the kde-redhat project, so you'd probably get better-packaged,
more up to date releases than is currently possible in Core.
C.f. my comment to 1) above.

I'd hope such a large maintainership burden would be done by a team,
which certainly would include rh's current kde maintainer.

IMO, it's only a matter of time until somebody will screw KDE and nobody
will feel responsible - Up to now we all had RH's KDE maintainer to
blame, but then we won't have him.

I take it, then, you don't have much faith in Extras *at all*.
Well, whether you like it or not, Fedora leadership so far has not given
me much reason for faith in them ...

The same
argument can be made against everything in Extras.
Not quite. It's the size of KDE and its complexity is what makes the
difference - I strongly doubt a couple of "ambitious young man" will be
able to handle it.

3. It would close out RH from a technology

IMO, simply being in Extras != "close out RH from a technology"

1. RH != Fedora !!!

true! Which puzzles me why you mentioned it, because it appears to weaken
the original assertion even more.
Why? I said, *RH* is decoupling itself from what others consider a core
component - If *they* think this is wise, ... well, I think they are in
error.

2. There are no FE CDs.
Coming soon! (Or at least a method to create customizable Fedora
installation media using your choice of bits from Core+Extras).
See above. I've read to many false promises from Fedora leadership to
give any trust in any such promise before I have it in my hands.

3. anaconda is meaningless rpm-wise.

I don't follow here.
You don't need anaconda to install Fedora. All that matters is rpm and
repositories => All you need is an rpm installer, such as yum or apt.

Ralf



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