Re: Tvtime & Hauppauge Win TV Express problems
- From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:43:25 +0200
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 01:39, Jeff Vian wrote:
On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 22:42 +0200, nigel henry wrote:
I think I've broken Tvtime twice. On FC2, and then on Kubuntu.
The TV tuner card is Hauppauge Win TV Express, and has a Conexant Fusion
878a chip.
Why not try a newer release of the OS?
I have FC5 installed, but it's on the other machine, which is only has a
500MHZ cpu, so is unlikely to work. I do have a bit of spare harddrive space
on the 1.3GHZ machine, so could put FC5 on that. I'm only on dialup, but do
have all the FC5 updates saved from /var/cache/apt/archives to another drive
on the same machine, but it means FTP'ing them to the 1.3Gig machine.
The real question is Jeff, is what has gone wrong with Tvtime? I remove it
using synaptic from either FC2 or Kubuntu. Now it's gone, and only the
downloaded RPM, or DEB package remains in /var/cache/apt/archives. I checked
for remaining files that hadn't been removed when I uninstalled it, but found
nothing. In theory I should be able to reinstall it using the rpm, or deb
that's in /var/cache/apt/archives, and get a new start for Tvtime, just like
it had never been installed. Clearly though Tvtime has been interacting with
other files, so everytime I reinstall it these other files it was interacting
with are showing Tvtimes display just as it was before I uninstalled it,
which is some sort of corrupted display.
The card isn't broken, as it still works on that other OS. I even tried
installing the Win TV 2000 viewer onto wine in FC2. It installed OK, but
there is a little, or big problem, however you want to view it, with a .dll
when I try to run it. I've never been too happy with wine. Stuff will work
that I'm not too bothered with, but the stuff I want to work won't. I'm not
knocking wine, as it must be one hell of a problem getting Windoze apps to
work on wine for the wine developers.
Out of interest. Which chip is your Win TV GO using?
I just installed a WinTV Go card on a box with FC5 and TVTime works
flawlessly. I admit that I am in the US and thus using NTSC and not
SECAM but that is related to the tuner/driver and not the display.
Tvtime is from Dag's repo, and is version-1.0.2-1.1.fc2.rf
I put the card in the machine, an Aiii-Friend 1.3GHZ (Celeron) , with 1GB
RAM. Installed Tvtime from Dag's repo onto FC2.
All I got when running Tvtime was a blue screen, showing a "no signal",
channel numbers, and that it was set for "Television". Channel scanning
produced nothing, even with messing with the menu, changing between PAL,
and SECAM, and changing the frequencies between France, and Europe.
FC5 has tvtime in the core repo (at least for the x86_64 architecture)
I now booted up Kubuntu, on the same machine, and installed Tvtime. Same
situation.
Right. It's supposed to work on Windoze, so I booted up XP on this
machine. Now I havn't used it for some time, and have Diamond CS's
Process Guard installed on it, so had some problems installing the Tv
tuners drivers onto XP, as Process Guard keeps asking for permission to
allow, and this seems to interrupt the installation of the drivers,
resulting in XP giving me a "Houston I think we have a problem" sort of
reply. So I disable Process Guard (temporarily), then the drivers are
installed. Then I continue with installing the Win TV viewer that comes
on the CDROM for the Hauppauge card.
After some messing with scanning for channels, I find the 3 french
channels, and the 2 belgian channels, plus some sound, and terrible
graphics for 2 of the 4 UK channels that I get in Northern France.
Right. XP has verified that there is no problem with the card, and can
even get FM radio from this Hauppauge card on XP.
OK. I know that the card works, the picture isn't fantastic, but that's
life. Now back into FC2. I now play Tvtimes menu like one plays the
piano, trying every option, and this is where I think I've screwed it up,
but I am getting a bit annoyed by now.
I now have a window for Tvtime. I can change the channels using the up
and down arrows, and they show up in the title bar, but can only see pink
and bluey green horizontal lines. The tab key which should bring up the
menu appears to work, but I can't see it. Pressing "q" clears the
unviewable menu, and pressing "q" again quits Tvtime.
I've removed Tvtime from the system using synaptic, but when I reinstall
it I get the same as before I uninstalled it.
I'm at a bit of a loss. It would appear that changes that I made in
Tvtime's menu options, have made changes in files that have nothing to do
with TVtime.
Not that it this is much interest on the list, but on Kubuntu, after
messing with Tvtimes menu, I now have, when I disable signal detect, a
green screen with a very small area (perhaps an eighth of an inch ) of
pixel soup at the top of the screen. Enabling signal detect again, brings
me back to the default screen, showing "no signal" , channel #'s on the
left, and "Television" on the right.
/sbin/lspci (on FC2)
00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video
Capture (rev 11)
Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV Series
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 32 (4000ns min, 10000ns max)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
Region 0: Memory at e7005000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
Capabilities: <available only to root>
00:0a.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture
(rev 11)
Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV Series
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 32 (1000ns min, 63750ns max)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
Region 0: Memory at e7006000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
Capabilities: <available only to root>
This is the first part of lsmod, which shows the modules loaded for the
Hauppauge card.
[djmons@localhost djmons]$ /sbin/lsmod
Module Size Used by
nls_utf8 2241 0
udf 75589 0
tuner 19821 0
tda9887 12889 0
tvaudio 20321 0
bttv 150033 0
video_buf 21829 1 bttv
i2c_algo_bit 8521 1 bttv
v4l2_common 5825 1 bttv
btcx_risc 4681 1 bttv
i2c_core 21057 5 tuner,tda9887,tvaudio,bttv,i2c_algo_bit
videodev 9409 1 bttv
I'd be happy for any suggestions, including, just go upstairs to watch
the TV, but it would be nice to get this card working on something other
that Windoze.
BTW. On both FC2, and Kubuntu, CPU useage is redlining with TVtime.
Nigel.
Nigel.
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