Re: Getting Fox News to work with Firefox

On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 09:35 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 16:43 +1030, Tim wrote:
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 18:18 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Am I the only one who finds this very frustration. To look at CNN news
you need one secret and FoxNews another secret, This does not speak
well for FC6 being a stable useful distribution.

Is this really a FC6 issue, or a Firefox issue?

Well it depends on you point of view. In the world of open software
versions of Linux decide to supply a set of necessary application types
(browsers in this case) that are produced by other organizations. Whose
responsibility is it to see that firefox works, or gnome works in the
context of FCx? What is the purpose of the testing phases of Fedora?

Either Fedora has to supply its own mplayer, browser , flash plugin that
works in the distribution or see that the program suppled by others
works. I would not say this for more off the wall applications but every
user expects that there essential applications work. Otherwise we can't
attack Microsoft.

I know that in some sense in this case it is partially the fault of CNN
or Fox. But I am frustrated since I have to spend weeks every 6 months
or so to make the next Fedora version work. I know I could use Centos or
pay for RHEL from my spare cash. I just want to share my frustration
this time. Next week I will go on to something else, like figuring up
why XML is not working for me at the moment.

Unfortunately, while I agree this is the fault of CNN and Fox
respectively, the bottom line is they are not willing to take
responsibility for it. Until they do, the "fault" falls to the Fedora
Project team and 3rd party repository owners to ensure that, when these
extras are installed, they work for at least the most commonly visited
sites work as designed.

We may not like it, but it will be that way until CNN and Fox see a
benefit for themselves in making sure their players work with Fedora and
its additional packages.

The same goes for things like Wireless firmware support. I'm extremely
pleased to hear that Fedora 7 is going after the WiFi firmware issue!
Now if we could also have the NetworkManager-vpnc plugin support IP
Tunneling, as well as have NetworkManager itself PEAP with 802.1x,
Fedora 7 becomes an "out of the box" solution for use in my company. As
we're a big Microsoft partner in the IT Services realm where a lot of us
are really frustrated with Vista and some of us are even spending our
own money to buy Macbooks, this would be a significant coup internally.

We're also a big VMware partner. I'm the global practice lead for
Virtualization services there and lots of us are switching to Linux
(Fedora or Ubuntu usually) and running VMware Workstation for those
things where we absolutely need Windows (which isn't very much anymore
in my experience).

Cheers,

Chris

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In practice there is.

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