FC7 - kdeedu & kdegames

Has anyone got any idea where kdeedu & kdegames are for FC7? I cannot
seem to find them on the dvd. And while I am asking questions, why is
it that when I specifically deselect GNOME, I still have to go thru
all the options to deselect GNOME stuff and find out after the install
that I still have remnants of nautilus hanging around? Considering
that k3b is the KDE app for burning images, are we going to get that
as well? It is also not on the dvd. Also missing is kdewebdev. Does
the live cd have them? I'm sure that with approx 1.9G empty space left
on the dvd, it would have been nice to have the packages.

ne...
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