Re: Fedora 7 CD iso files?

Knute Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:42:05 -0700
Knute Johnson <knute@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

That works fine but you can't upgrade an existing installation
without a DVD drive or a complicated (and not really documented so
that a linux blivet can do it) set of procedures.
You already have a mail server and a desktop machine. Why not copy the
dvdimage and host a nfs server on one (which will take you about 3 minutes to
set up), and boot off of the cdrom boot.iso on the other; upgrade it. Then copy
the dvd image to the other, host a nfs server on that, and upgrade it.

Assuming that they are in the same room (or can be brought into the same room)
it won't take any longer to do it this way than it would take to shuffle
all of those CD's around. Really!

They are on a different network and nfs is not installed on the mail
server. Installing it is probably not a big problem but that
computer is connected directly to the net and I don't think I want
nfs exposed to the world. And the mail server is downstairs in the
garage and my desktop isn't. Then add to that that I have no idea
how nfs works or how to configure it or how to do an install with it.
I'm not opposed to learning new skills but I don't have unlimited
time to fool with this.

OK, lemme get this straight. You're going to do an in-place upgrade on
a PRODUCTION mail server without having done it on an identical
development/test environment first?

Are you insane?

You can see my other post about the mail server twin. So no I am not
insane (a little paranoid maybe).

CDs are simple and fairly reliable (more so now that I figured out
how solve the media check problem). My mail server is still at FC5
because I didn't want to risk blowing it up when I upgraded it. Now
it is time to upgrade and there are no disks. Upgrading is hazardous
enough without having to drag computers around, change their
addresses, do an install that I can't find any real instructions for
and drag my desktop downstairs.

Why don't you just put the DVD iso image on the mail server's hard
drive, burn the boot.iso file to CD, boot off of it with the command
"linux askmethod" and tell it to install off your local disk? Easy as
can be.

How will that work when the installer formats the drive?

I think maybe I'll just change my mail server computer to ubuntu
server. They just upgrade from the net. No disks.

Why do people like you think this will make us go all aquiver and fall
to our knees begging you to stay, professing the error of our ways?

I don't care if you quiver or beg. Why would I? If you don't want F
to be usable by more people then you should be glad to get rid of me.
I just want a simple system that I can install or upgrade with a CD
drive. Who would want to keep me around?

I mean, seriously, your whole argument is "I'm too lazy to do this the
right way, maybe I should go to Ubuntu! That'll be cool!"

I'm not too lazy. I spend way too much time keeping my Linux
computers running or trying to get things to work on them that just
install and run on Windows.

If you seriously think moving from Fedora to Ubuntu is going to be
easier than just doing your freaking due diligence around this upgrade,
then hey, knock yourself out.

You should try harder to make me go away. That was a pitiful
attempt.

Otherwise, ask smart questions, do the work necessary to run your
environment in a sane fashion, and don't be a jerk.

I'm not the jerk here Mr. Pot.

I'll ask a smart question then. My DVD image will be done
downloading today, explain exactly how, in enough detail that I can
actually get it to work, to install it to the hard drive of my mail
server twin and upgrade that computer.

Or just call me a jerk and send me on my way, your choice.

--
Knute Johnson
Molon Labe...


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