Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 40, Issue 264


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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Selinux so badly corrupted machine can't start (Tony Nelson)
2. Re: yum, rpm, pirut, pup won't run on FC6 (Tony Nelson)
3. Re: Totem on FC6 (Nigel Henry)
4. Re: Gcc problem on FC6 (Les)
5. Re: Gcc problem on FC6 (Andrew Overholt)
6. Re: Brief diary of an F-7 installation (Rahul Sundaram)
7. Re: Partition neatness and order question ? (kwhiskerz)
8. Re: tons of spam (jdow)
9. Where does chkconfig store its settings? (Eric)
10. Re: tons of spam (jdow)
11. Re: How can it be? (Timothy Murphy)
12. Re: Totem on FC6 (Les Mikesell)
13. Re: Brief diary of an F-7 installation (Andras Simon)
14. Re: Where does chkconfig store its settings? (Jay Goodman)
15. Print odd-even pages (Chu Jeang Tan)
16. Re: Selinux so badly corrupted machine can't start
(Daniel J Walsh)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:33:35 -0400
From: Tony Nelson <tonynelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Selinux so badly corrupted machine can't start
To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <p04330100c29dcc16030f@[192.168.123.162]>
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At 11:30 AM -0400 6/19/07, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
Tony Nelson wrote:
At 9:55 AM -0400 6/19/07, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
...
autorelabel=1 (Does the same thing as touch /.autorelabel; reboot)


Thanks. How about adding that last one to
<http://danwalsh/livehournal.com/3144.html> ?

I just posted a new blog entry.

The string "autorelabel=1" does not show up in
<http://danwalsh/livehournal.com/3144.html> after refreshing. There is
still only one instance of the word "autorelabel". If you've put the word
on a different page, I didn't find it.
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' <http://www.georgeanelson.com/>



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:32:59 -0400
From: Tony Nelson <tonynelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: yum, rpm, pirut, pup won't run on FC6
To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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At 12:05 PM -0400 6/19/07, Eric wrote:
At 10:59 AM 6/19/2007, Tony Nelson wrote:

<TN>>>>>The output from lsof includes the command. Some RPM-using thing is
running.<<<<<

Oh, yeah, so it is... an instance of rpmq is running.

Killed that, and the __db* files went away.

Ran rpm --rebuilddb, which promptly went to sleep, and it's still running
(sleeping) after about 5 minutes... will let it run for a while longer
before taking the when-all-else-fails step (rebooting).
...

`top` will tell you if it is sleeping or thinking, though it can't tell
productive work from spinning wheels.
--
____________________________________________________________________
TonyN.:' <mailto:tonynelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
' <http://www.georgeanelson.com/>



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:34:54 +0200
From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Totem on FC6
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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On Tuesday 19 June 2007 14:33, Christian Menzel wrote:
Karl,

I have not found a single file totem was able to play, so remove it and use
vlc.

Chris

Same goes here, and the same for KDE's Kaboodle. You click on a file, the
player opens, and does zilch.

By contrast, and this is the first time I've tried vlc, and I've installed it
on Debian Lenny, as I've mentioned to Karl, but this seems to work even
easier than Mplayer.

One question about vlc. The images are quite dark, and I can't find any sort
of config for brightness/contrast, etc. Any suggestions?

Nigel.



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:35:52 -0700
From: Les <hlhowell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Gcc problem on FC6
To: hlhowell@xxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1182278152.9755.43.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

My wife interrupted me.... at least that is my excuse. Sorry, make it
Peter, not Phillip. Please forgive me.

Regards,
Les H
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 11:29 -0700, Les wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 22:20 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 21:59 -0700, Les wrote:
/tmp/cc2fblEI.o: In function `main':
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1e): undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x102): undefined reference to
`XCreateSimpleWindow'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x11f): undefined reference to `XSelectInput'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x131): undefined reference to `XMapWindow'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x153): undefined reference to `XCreateGC'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x16f): undefined reference to `XSetForeground'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x181): undefined reference to `XNextEvent'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1c4): undefined reference to `XDrawLine'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1cf): undefined reference to `XFlush'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [GuiExample] Error 1


These look like linker errors; make sure you have the libX11-devel
package installed and that your CXXFLAGS setting (if needed) includes
the "-lX11" switch so that the linker can properly find the right shared
library to link to.

[...]
but that would mean that the standard loader execution is messed up,
because it should look in /usr/lib for the associated ".a" files that
match the headers.

As an aside, Fedora's policy as I understand it is to explicitly exclude
such static libraries from the packaging unless otherwise absolutely
necessary. Once you install libX11-devel, you'll see various libX11.so
symlinks in your /usr/lib directory (or /usr/lib64 if using a 64-bit
arch). These are how the dynamic linker finds the appropriate library.

Hope that helped.
I appreciate your help Peter.

I was sort of expecting that when I loaded the Eclipse environment that
it would bring along all the setup to use it. I did have to add the
link to the java JRE for it to run, and I got past that hurdle, then
came to this one. I decided to simplify by trying first gcc and then
make -k, So here I am.
Here is what happened when I tried installing libX11-devel:
# yum install libX11-devel
Loading "fedorakmod" plugin
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Parsing package install arguments
Nothing to do


So just to prove that this didn't change anything I tried:
gcc -L X11 GuiExample.cpp
/tmp/ccOzTvpe.o: In function `main':
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1e): undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x102): undefined reference to
`XCreateSimpleWindow'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x11f): undefined reference to `XSelectInput'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x131): undefined reference to `XMapWindow'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x153): undefined reference to `XCreateGC'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x16f): undefined reference to `XSetForeground'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x181): undefined reference to `XNextEvent'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1c4): undefined reference to `XDrawLine'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1cf): undefined reference to `XFlush'
/tmp/ccOzTvpe.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to
`__gxx_personality_v0'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

And then I tried this:
yum whatprovides libX11.so
Loading "fedorakmod" plugin
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up repositories
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Importing additional filelist information
filelists.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 1.2 MB
00:08
dries : ################################################## 3540/3540



libX11.i386 1.0.3-4.fc6
core
Matched from:
/usr/lib/libX11.so.6
/usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0
libX11.so.6



libX11-devel.i386 1.0.3-4.fc6
core
Matched from:
/usr/lib/libX11.so



libX11.i386 1.0.3-4.fc6
core
Matched from:
/usr/lib/libX11.so.6
/usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0
libX11.so.6



nx.i386 2.1.0-22.fc6
extras
Matched from:
/usr/lib/nx/libX11.so.6
/usr/lib/nx/libX11.so.6.2



libX11.i386 1.0.3-7.fc6
updates
Matched from:
/usr/lib/libX11.so.6
/usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0
libX11.so.6



libX11.i386 1.0.3-7.fc6
updates
Matched from:
/usr/lib/libX11.so.6
/usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0
libX11.so.6



libX11-devel.i386 1.0.3-7.fc6
updates
Matched from:
/usr/lib/libX11.so



libX11.i386 1.0.3-7.fc6
installed
Matched from:
/usr/lib/libX11.so.6
/usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0
libX11.so.6



libX11-devel.i386 1.0.3-7.fc6
installed
Matched from:
/usr/lib/libX11.so


next I did
ls -al libX11*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Apr 12 09:35 libX11.so -> libX11.so.6.2.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Apr 12 09:34 libX11.so.6 ->
libX11.so.6.2.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1057916 Apr 9 15:12 libX11.so.6.2.0

so it looks like libX11.so is installed in /usr/lib. But:

gcc -LlibX11.so GuiExample.cpp
/tmp/cccbDnur.o: In function `main':
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1e): undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x102): undefined reference to
`XCreateSimpleWindow'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x11f): undefined reference to `XSelectInput'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x131): undefined reference to `XMapWindow'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x153): undefined reference to `XCreateGC'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x16f): undefined reference to `XSetForeground'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x181): undefined reference to `XNextEvent'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1c4): undefined reference to `XDrawLine'
GuiExample.cpp:(.text+0x1cf): undefined reference to `XFlush'
/tmp/cccbDnur.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to
`__gxx_personality_v0'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

I then tried going to the add/remove software panel and adding more
libraries associated with development, but I was pretty sure I had the
required stuff, and sure enough it didn't change anything.

I am sorry, and this is probably clear to some of you, but I am at a
loss to understand why this doesn't work. If I use gcc, the presence or
absence of a library .a or .so shouldn't matter since the compiler
should create the link chain based on the extern definition, which could
be resolved at load time. Of course if I wanted to debug the code
statically, I would need the ".a" version of the library, but I don't
want that in this case. I have downloaded and read the gcc manual, and
perused the man pages for both gcc and make.

Moreover the -L argument to gcc only invokes some printout of the
sym-link-times, which is not useful in this context. Make tries to
interpret the -L instead of passing it to link or ld function, so it
simply doesn't change anything. I know that make should have (does
have) a means to pass arguments to the link and ld processes, I haven't
gotten past the generic compile bit yet using gcc.

I can try to manually create a local make file, but due to my lapse in
time using make, I will a have to research that a bit first, and I am
not even sure that doing that will cure the problem.

I understand if there is a problem with linking, but I don't understand
why I have the cpp errors.

I have also removed the #include for the Xlib.h file and that gave me
more errors, which confirms that the compiler is finding the Xlib.h. I
also checked the Xlib.h file and found that the procedures named in the
error all seem to have templates. So when the compiler gives me an
undefined reference, typically I believe that it is due to a missing
header file, but that is not the case here. I feel so stupid right now.
I have used C for ages, but for the last 15 years I have had my
environment setup on Sun and just used it. When I retired, I wasn't
smart enough to save the details of how I had set it all up. Where is
that notebook entry when you need it??? Oh, the one I forgot to
write!!!!

I am using the predefined "everything including the kitchen sink" make
file, and I can't even find that file to use as an example. The make
documentation I retrieved doesn't mention the location of the basic make
template file, and I wanted to use that to begin designing a local make
to see if I could code my way out of this in the make file. This is
where the modification to the CXXFLAGS environmental variable should go
anyway for X programs. I will look online for another make example to
see if I can find one to cobble up for this little exercise. But any
further help you might offer will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your help so far, Phillip.

Regards,
Les H




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:29:56 -0400
From: Andrew Overholt <overholt@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Gcc problem on FC6
To: hlhowell@xxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1182277796.4821.26.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 11:29 -0700, Les wrote:
I was sort of expecting that when I loaded the Eclipse environment
that
it would bring along all the setup to use it. I did have to add the
link to the java JRE for it to run,

Sorry, I missed the earlier part of this thread - what wasn't as you
expected with Eclipse?

Andrew
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:07:46 +0530
From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Brief diary of an F-7 installation
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Timothy Murphy wrote:

I'm pretty sure the Anaconda/Fedora developers
have a political preference for Gnome over KDE,
and so make it more difficult to choose KDE.
I think people should have a free choice.

I think you have a political preference against Anaconda developers and
assuming their motivations without asking them is rather rude. Just stop
doing that. Users always have the "free choice" to select "customize
now" in the installation.

Rahul



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:54:32 -0600
From: kwhiskerz <kwhiskerz@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Partition neatness and order question ?
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200706191254.32223.kwhiskerz@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

On June 19, 2007 10:49:27 Jeff Voskamp wrote:
William Case wrote:
Hi;

Over the last 3 Fedora installs, I have managed to get my partition
numbers out of sequence.

parted /dev/sdb returns:
Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 8225kB 41.1GB 41.1GB extended lba
5 8258kB 90.5MB 82.2MB logical ext3 boot
6 90.5MB 1349MB 1258MB logical linux-swap
7 1349MB 9739MB 8390MB logical ext3
8 9739MB 30.6GB 20.9GB logical ext3
9 30.6GB 41.1GB 10.5GB logical fat32

Starting correctly with number 1 (sdb1) then jumps to 5 (sdb5). How can
I rename my partitions so that they go in sequence; sdb1, sdb2, ...
sdb6.

This is simply a neatness fetish; the numbering is not presently causing
any problems to the actual opeation of F-7. Am I best just to leave it
alone, or is there a simple way or program that can re-number these
partitions?

Partitions 1-4 are primary partitions defined in the partition table in
sector 1 of the disk.
Partitions 5 and up are logical partitions residing inside the extended
partition.
You can't simply renumber the partitions since you'd have to pull some
out of the extended partition. However, using something like Partition
Magic you could possibly shrink one or more of the larger ones, create
partitions 2-4, copy over the contents and delete some of the higher
numbered ones. It would take a while and not really buy you anything,
other than the nice numbering. :-)

Jeff Voskamp

Actually, you can reorder the number very nicely with fdisk. Go into the
advanced settings, x, and type f to fix the partition order. make sure to
adjust fstab!



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:55:51 -0700
From: "jdow" <jdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: tons of spam
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <0ade01c7b2a3$78a71e20$0225a8c0@wednesday>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

From: "Arthur Pemberton" <pemboa@xxxxxxxxx>

On 6/17/07, George <gasjr4wd@xxxxxxx> wrote:
wow guys,
I've been signed up for this list for about a week and I've noticed a
ton of spam coming in now. I guess I should have used a different
address than my main one... I could stand the traffic, (and this is a
high traffic list!) but all the spam, no way.


Have you googled your email address? The only hit related to fedora is
this thread, but your email address is already in search engines.

I'll say his address is on Google in spades. He has an E-Bay account,
or somebody does with that username. I got 61 hits on Google.

{^_^}



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:55:38 -0400
From: Eric <spamsink@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Where does chkconfig store its settings?
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20070619143111.05a79760@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed


Where do chkconfig and system-config-services store their settings?

I checked the man pages and Google and no luck, then tried making a change
to chkconfig and running "find / -mmin 10", and nothing obvious showed up.



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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:02:04 -0700
From: "jdow" <jdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: tons of spam
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <0ae001c7b2a4$56a73d90$0225a8c0@wednesday>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

From: "David G. Miller" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
"jdow" <jdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I may have some "sharp words" about the spam fighting tools that come
with
FC7. I have little time to play with it. And it does not like my laptop.
So I have to download a bunch of debug files so I can track it down. (The
bug is in X-Windows so the gnome based folks want me to download and
install an unknown number of gnome debug files. Go figure. When I have
time I will humor them. But it's hard as heck to debug a frozen machine
that has kicked the display out the window, metaphorically speaking. The
SpamAssassin RPMS that came with FC4 and FC5 seemed to be incomplete when
I attempted to use them in the past. And for an effective SpamAssassin
install SOME mention of the Spam Assassin Rules Emporium is properly
required, as is mention of FuzzyOCR and a couple other gems.

(SARE is so effective it was included in the massive DDoS attack that
struck Spamhaus as well. Some spammer got REALLY peaved, po' baby.)
If you run your own mail server, I've had good luck with dSpam. It takes
a little while to get it trained since it's Bayesian filter based but I
now get overall accuracy of over 95% and the spam identification is over
93%. I should add that I get *very few* false positives (currently 12 out
of over 15,000 e-mails) and several of those were right after installation
when the filter had very little data to go on.

Wow - at THAT level it'd get chucked with extreme prejudice. (Since it
is not actively evil I'd not give in the paraffin and lead foil wraps
followed by a staking and burial at midnight of a full Moon. But I would
put it on a disk and bury the disk.) That accuracy is horrible. If I cut
my spam catch percentage to about 99% or so I could virtually eliminate
my false alarm rate. But that's not worth the effort tuning the system.
It ain't broke so I am not going to fix it. I'm serious that when I had
the 250-300 spam a day spam traffic I'd go one to two weeks without a
false alarm, once I found some juju to handle technical mailing lists
that have patch files cross the list frequently.

SpamAssassin can be awkward to setup. But once setup it is devastatingly
effective, especially since it scores block lists. No one block list
will give you a false positive. But they do save a lot of spam sneak-
throughs. I'm quite convinced that a proper anti-spam tool combines
rules and Bayes.

{^_^}



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:38:21 +0100
From: Timothy Murphy <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How can it be?
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <f597qu$jbc$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Chris Jones wrote:

It doesn't change the fact that most people have no problems with Fedora
at all.

I think that is very improbable.
I imagine that a large proportion (like 90%) of Fedora users
will try either viewing DVDs or running Skype,
and in either case they are almost certain to meet problems.


--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland



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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:07:11 -0500
From: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Totem on FC6
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <4678295F.9000302@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Karl Larsen wrote:

If you're happy to run patent encumbered software then you can
configure the livna repository by installing the rpm at:

http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-6.rpm

..and then run

yum install totem-xine

..to install a version of totem which can play DVDs.

Hi but one problem. When I try to yum install totem-xine it farts around
and errors out saying the installed totem is in the way. So tried to rpm
-e totem but libs are not removed because they are used for other
software packages.

What now?

Back up a step. Have you installed any other 3rd party RPMS (i.e. not
from core/extras/livna)? If so, I'd remove them or start with a fresh
install. Livna rarely if ever replaces or conflicts with anything in
the stock distribution - and in fact requires it to resolve yum
dependencies. The other 3rd party repositories make an effort to be
compatible with the base and each other but don't always succeed. I'd
use them only if necessary. And, as others have already mentioned, vlc
will play about anything you throw at it.

--
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx



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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:11:25 +0200
From: "Andras Simon" <szajmi@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Brief diary of an F-7 installation
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
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On 6/19/07, Timothy Murphy <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Andras Simon wrote:

2. There should be an honest choice given between Gnome and KDE.
There is something sneaky about the way Fedora tries to get Gnome in.

I remember being offered the option to install Gnome, KDE or a third
DTE (Xfce?). I chose none, and got it :-) Which, btw is a definite
improvement over older RH/Fedora installs. So I don't see any Gnome
conspiracy here.

Where were you given that choice?
As far as I can see, you get no choice at all
unless you opt for a Custom Choice of packages
(which itself is non-default);

I must admit, I did. And probably so should everyone who knows what he wants.
Those who go with the defaults should not complain that the defaults
are not quite what they expect - as long as they're safe and sane
ones.

and then you have to choose the Desktop bundle,
uncheck Gnome and check KDE.
It's easy to overlook the fact that Gnome is checked in by default.

Why not give users a simple choice with radio buttons?

There is a simple choice with checkboxes, if you chose to have choices.

Andras



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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:12:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jay Goodman" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Where does chkconfig store its settings?
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
<26858.216.143.242.112.1182280346.squirrel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1



It doesn't. To see if a service is "on" or "off", it checks for the
existence of the symlinks in the /etc/rcN.d directories

When you issue the command "chkconfig sendmail on",
chckconfig looks for the "chkconfig:" line in the actual /etc/init.d/

In the sendmail case (i'm looking at RHEL3 at the moment) the chkconfig:
line in /etc/init.d/sendmail reads

chkconfig: 2345 80 30

issuing the command "chkconfig sendmail on" will create symlinks
/etc/rd1.d/K30sendmail
/etc/rd2.d/S80sendmail
/etc/rd3.d/S80sendmail
/etc/rd4.d/S80sendmail
/etc/rd5.d/S80sendmail
/etc/rd6.d/K30sendmail

issuing the command "chkconfig --list sendmail" checks for the existence
of the start and kill links in the various runlevels (/etc/rcN.d/) to
output its startup configuration
















Where do chkconfig and system-config-services store their settings?

I checked the man pages and Google and no luck, then tried making a change
to chkconfig and running "find / -mmin 10", and nothing obvious showed up.

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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:13:08 -0500
From: "Chu Jeang Tan" <chujtan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Print odd-even pages
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Anyway to print odd/even pages only in apps such as evince and epiphany?

Is this a feature of the application, CUPS or the underlying CUPS driver?

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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:13:14 -0400
From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Selinux so badly corrupted machine can't start
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <46782ACA.6060809@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Tony Nelson wrote:
At 11:30 AM -0400 6/19/07, Daniel J Walsh wrote:

Tony Nelson wrote:

At 9:55 AM -0400 6/19/07, Daniel J Walsh wrote:

...

autorelabel=1 (Does the same thing as touch /.autorelabel; reboot)


Thanks. How about adding that last one to
<http://danwalsh/livehournal.com/3144.html> ?


I just posted a new blog entry.


The string "autorelabel=1" does not show up in
<http://danwalsh/livehournal.com/3144.html> after refreshing. There is
still only one instance of the word "autorelabel". If you've put the word
on a different page, I didn't find it.

It is a new blog entry.



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