Re: F8 x86_64 and i386 installs hang on Dell Optiplex 320 with Intel Pentium 2160 processor

On Nov 19, 2007 5:19 PM, Craig White <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 15:10 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Alastair Neil wrote:
On Nov 14, 2007 12:14 PM, Alastair Neil <ajneil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On Nov 13, 2007 6:38 PM, Craig White <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 17:40 -0500, Alastair Neil wrote:

I have a Dell Optiplex 320 with a Pentium dual Dual Core CPU (
2160).
I am trying to boot off of a usb thumb drive with the disk images
from

the respective full DVD.isos.

Both fail to get past probing the serial ports on boot. The i386
thumb drive has been used successfully to install a Dell 270.
Currently both hyperthreading and speedstep are enabled. I have
tried

a few kernel parameters, such as pci=nomsi, acpi=off and noacpi to
no
avail.

Has anyone succeeded in installing F8 on this hardware?

----
my fault, I have a number of bugzilla items in on this...

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=219715

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=379201

you'll note that on the last one, I did figure out that appending

pci=noacpi timesource=acpi_pm

kernel parameters will allow you to install/boot

but I have never gotten grub to boot on these things and nothing has
changed there, thus I continue to use lilo to get these things to
boot
which means that each kernel update requires a manual run of lilo.

I'm hoping that we get these things all worked out as I am working
doggedly with the kernel developers on this

Craig

Craig,

thanks for the tips adding pci=noapci and clocksource=acpi_pm indeed
allowed me to start the install. I have added myself as a CC on the
bugs
you mentioned so, I'll keep my fingers crossed. A complication on my
part
is that these are to be dual boot systems. I havn't used lilo in
years so
I'm going to have to brush up on my dual boot lilo configuration.

Thanks again, Alastair

An update for those following at home:

I have managed to get these systems to boot using grub2, of course I
have
had to disable kernel updates in the yum.conf.

As a side note I was absolutely dismayed by the state of grub
development.
The last release of grub2 was at the beginning of 2006. It seems to
be
completely stagnant. This certainly raises the question whither
Fedora?


I wonder what grub 2 might be. I had a lot of trouble with the grub
I have on F7 but it was all my lack of understanding how grub works and
now it works fine. Could you have the same problem?
----
Karl, please refrain from entering this thread.

It has nothing to do with you, nothing to do with anything you own, have
ever done, will ever do and it is so highly unlikely that you will
contribute anything constructive to it, that you need to ignore this
thread completely...

Thank you

I don't know anything about grub2 but obviously GPL and similar license
permits forking at will but of course, projects that aren't actively
maintained aren't going to make it into mainstream distribution.

That said, I'm not sure what grub2 offers that lilo doesn't offer...lilo
works too.


I picked gub2 over lilo because my lilo skills are about 7 years out of date
and I hoped, futilely as it turned out, that I could use grub2 as a drop in
replacement for grub. It appears that the current version, which is
actually just a little over a year old - not the nearly 2 years I
originally said, is far from feature complete in terms of compatibility with
grub.

So I guess if you are happy with lilo there is no compelling reason to
switch.

I checked the mailing lists for the grub2 project and there is activity,
however I remain concerned that they have gone from a dot release every few
months to nothing for over a year. I 'm guessing they must be making a
major design overhaul.

Alastair
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