Re: F8 is an excellent release!
- From: <zephod@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:33:47 -0500
---- Karl Larsen <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mike C wrote:Unfortunately, I have had the opposite experience. I have been using Redhat distributions since RedHat 4.0 and never had musch of a problem. With F8 that hasn't been the case.
Generally in this list the postings relate to queries concerning problems andWell this list is where we complain when Fedora somehow screws up.
failings with Fedora, and how-to suggestions and workarounds for specific issues.
I have now installed F8 on six different machines and all are running very well
indeed and are better by far than F7 was.
We tend to forget that being right at the bleeding edge means we may have
problems but overall the new F8 is a big step forward over F7 in relation
to several areas.
1) Wireless support is fantastic compared to F7 with the new in-kernel drivers
for iwl3945 (and 4965), as well as the old ipw2200, and removing the need to
compile and install proprietary drivers. Work is still being undertaken on
ath5k and rt2x00 but the latter is now working well for me with a usb adapter
that uses rt73usb.
2) Suspend seems to be much better than previously - I have one laptop that
did not suspend and restart cleanly with F7, and it does with F8.
I am sure that others could name more parts of the system that work well, or
have been greatly improved.
When I installed F8 I had an issue with the install hanging, but there is
a known easy workaround. I also had a mess with pulse-audio but again a simple
"yum remove" option was brought to this list and gives me a nice sound system
without pulse-audio.
It is a shame that these issues did hit a lot of people but once the workarounds
have been done and the system installed and updated we do have a really nice
distribution, and with so much new stuff in the recent kernels, as well as the
supported applications, it is great to know that it is slick, secure and works
well. Sure you do have to know how to fix the few remaining problems but it is
well worth requesting info through the experts on this list and then running the
best linux distro available. After all Linus himself I believe uses Fedora!
Perhaps other could add their praise to the Fedora developers as much of the
time we tend to see brickbats rather than accolades!
My two-pennyworth...
So it is nice to see a good Subject for a good version. Yes my
experience with F8 has been about the same. After I got the sound right
that now works fine and yesterday I set up printing which I forgot to do
first, but it set up even easier than F7.
So it appears F8 has the good parts of the much updated F7 and some
added fixes and additions. I like it!
First of all, I had installation problems. The installation would hang after loading initrd.img. It turns out that was a known bug that has been around since when F7 was released and the solution is simply to hold down the SHIFT key while booting which gets you to a CLI prompt from where you can type linux and then installation proceeds normally. (Thanks to Knute, IIRC, for that)
The next problem is a display resoltion problem wherein the GDM login screen is only about 3/4 ofthe screen size and when I log in the top menu bar and the bottom task bar follow the top and bottom of the GDM scrren but the background covers the whole screen. I found that I could move the bottom task bar and it jumped to the bottom of the screen and expanded to fill the full width but no such luck with the menu bar. I am still working on this problem. See my "Screen resilution problems in F8" thead from 2 days ago)
A third problem is that sound doesn't work. I've never had a problem with this before. When udev starts there is a slight pop in the speakers and when I go to System->Administration->Sound Card Detection and use the "play sound" button I get a very quiet muffled sound (kind of like a record being played backwards, Strawberry Fields thing) even though the volume is on max.
On the positive side, I haven't had the problems with Java or Iced Tea that others have had. I use Java for financial charting (eg. http://www.prophet.net/analyze/javacharts.jsp)
So long as people keep reporting their experiences and problems (hopfully without the "this software is a POS and everyone owes me an immediate answer!" attitude) and people keep providing answers and solutions (hopfully without the "If you had half a brain, you could figure this out for yorself!" attitude) then Fedora will continue to improve.
Steve
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