Re: Problem with random disks mount sequence
- From: wwp <subscript@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:45:51 +0100
Hello Mikkel,
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:00:15 -0600 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
wwp wrote:
Hello there,SCSI drives are listed by order of discovery. (SATA drives are
running a Fedora 8.. since I don't know when, my root partition is
randomly mounted as /dev/sda3 or /dev/sdc3. This breaks the mount
possibilities from within Nautilus, as it seems to be a complete mess
w/ detected devices (or remembered?) devices.
It's a D810 laptop, w/ a SATA disk (usually sda, root sda3 and labelled
as '/' and swap as SWAP-sda4, sda1 and sda2 being NTFS). When I boot
the laptop w/ some USB disks connected (labelled storage3 and
storage4), I'll get random mount sequences. At the beginning the USB
disks were sdb and sdc and could be mounted w/o problem from Nautilus.
But I recently reboot and found that this has changed -> root is sdc3
and one of the external USB disks is now sda1.
/ and swap partitions are in fstab, storage3 and storage4 aren't.
If that doesn't prevent the system from running fine, from within
Nautilus, I can't mount the external USB disk anymore, it seems that
nautilus remember that 'storage3' was 1st partition, but now it tries
to mount /dev/sda1, and fails w/: NTFS signature missing..
Any clues how I could get a fixed mounting sequence? Should I force a
specific device (/dev/sdc1) for the labelled partition 'storage3' for
instance (and how)? How can it be that the / partition doesn't get the
1st /dev/sdX assignment?
Regards,
handled as SCSI drives.) You should not have USB drives discovered
before your SATA drive. It almost sounds like you have the
usb_storage module in your initrd file. You may also want to check
/etc/modprobe.conf fo SCSI controller aliases.
I didn't change factory defaults for kernel config and params, modprobe
settings or initrd contents, it was working fine until I did some
reboots (it worked fine for several reboots, I can't tell if that came
from an upgrade or if it's a random behaviour, and I'm not rebooting
every day). If this problems shows here, it's potentially everyone
else's problem, if it's not BIOS or hardware dependent.
I normally let HAL mount USB drives - it uses the label for the
mount point off the /media directory. It is possible to write HAL
rules that mount specific drives on specific mount points. It is
also possile to write udev rules that will mount the USB drive based
on the partition label, just like your root directory is mounted.
(You need to use the noauto option, so the system does not try to
mount them on boot.)
This should give you a couple of ways to try and solve the problem,
or at least give someone else an idea on more troubleshooting.
Yeah, thanks for the tips. The easy (temporary) workaround I found for
my next reboot was to have the USB disks unplugged before GDM shows up
(one plug to get off, they're connected to a USB concentrator). I
wonder if disabling booting USB devices in the BIOS could help.
I'm a bit amazed in fact, and I say this w/o any irony, really. After so
many years where I could see that the way external devices and fs are
mounted (that started w/ manual fstab handling, then hotplug, udev,
hal, mixing with autofs and gnome mount mechanisms (correct me if I
forget one), it's like we'll never get an auto-mounting mechanism that
is reliable from a Desktop PoV. Maybe it's simply not possible because
software can't guess human expectations, but then, maybe a wizard
should ask what to do when new device IDs get plugged in (remember it
and automount it next time, etc.). Waiting for a smart mount robot, I
think I'll look into the the HAL rules direction!
Regards,
--
wwp
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