Re: Java problem

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Karl Larsen wrote:
David Boles wrote:
Karl Larsen wrote:

Craig White wrote:
It is interesting the hoops technical people jump through for
Political reasons. Java exists on a web page somewhere and it is
operating system independent. It is free to all users.

But the users need to know how to get it and mount it. If Fedora is
not going to use the real java in their distribution it is another
reason other versions of Linux are slowly being used by the public (I
have not seen any yet in my Wal-Mart).

In competition with Windows you do things that are not good from the
free software point of view. In my opinion we should change the
definition of free to include software available free but without source
code. In this group comes the driver for Nvidia hardware. I think what's
happening is a Political fix where someone is using the Nvidia software
which is NOT with a source code, and when a new kernel is ready they run
the Nvidia software and make the kernel driver(s), which are then put in
a rpm file and sent to users as a Update. It looks good but is it really
good?



I just have to ask you Karl. What OS or Linux distribution natively
includes Sun Java? What OS or Linux distribution natively includes the
Nvidia drivers that you install?




I do not know. Unbuto has Nvidia drivers that worked on my computer.
But it was not perfect. I expect Windows which doesn't change kernels 5
times a year, could have the driver within but not sure it does.


Microsoft supplies a generic Nvidia driver that works with all Nvidia
cards. Similar to the one provided in the Linux kernel. If you actually
buy the card, in a box, drivers are supplied on a CD. But not current
one. Just as with Linux if you want the newest, 3D drivers you have to
go to Nvidia, find the correct ones, and install them.

The difference is that if you have already installed better drivers you
have to uninstall them, reboot to the Microsoft provided one, install
the new one and reboot to the newer ones. Then configure them.

Microsoft does not provide Java on their disk. Actually they provide the
operating system only. It does have some built in features but nothing
really great. You get a real deal with the Linux OS/software when you
install. ;-)

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David
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