Re: A sound problem one more time.- THE SOLUTION AT LAST (PLEASE NOTE)
- From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb2m97pp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:54:42 +0100
On Monday 18 February 2008 14:53, Mark C. Allman wrote:
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 19:01 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
On Friday 15 February 2008 20:32, Mark C. Allman wrote:
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 20:09 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
On Friday 15 February 2008 02:35, Mark C. Allman wrote:
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 22:13 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
On Thursday 14 February 2008 18:01, Mark C. Allman wrote:
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 22:43 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 21:34, Frank Chiulli wrote:
Nigel,
I have a Sound Blaster Live! Value. This is an older
machine. F8 detected the card automatically. Unfortunately
I can't tell you exactly when I got the error. I had tried
lots of things to get sound to work but never did. It
wasn't a big deal. Then I was looking at something else
when I was the error. I figured that I would take a look
at it. It seems like an easy fix. It seems pretty obvious
to me what was wrong. So I corrected it. Then sound
worked.
Frank
Thanks for the reply Frank. I was hoping that you would say
that your card was also an isa one, and would tie it in with
Aarons problems.
It's nice to see that both of you have resolved the problem,
but what's going on to cause these problems is beyond me.
As you see from what I posted above, my audigy2 soundblaster
was detected ok, and apart from disabling pulseaudio by
removing alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, and adding the usual lines
to /etc/modprobe.conf for my usb midi keyboard that uses
snd-usb-audio, the sounds are working ok.
Anyway, the fact that both you and Aaron now have sounds is
the main thing. Quite why you've both had problems, and me
none, I've no idea. That's computers for you.
Nigel.
Mark says:
When I run the "alsa-info.sh" script I see an error message
when it tries to collect the data that says something like "no
soundcard found." I think it's the same error that I see when I
run aplay to list out cards:
[mcallman@prez tmp]$ aplay -l
aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found...
Also, when I look at the script results, I see the following at
about line 65 (this is after I tried "model=toshiba" in
modprobe.conf even though my laptop is a Dell XPS 1710):
Loaded sound module option
--------------------------
Module: snd_hda_intel
enable : N
id : <NULL>
index : 0
model : toshiba
position_fix : 0
power_save : 0
power_save_controller : Y
probe_mask : -1
single_cmd : N
Could the "enable: N" line be the key here? For those of you
that have sound working, what do you see listed for "enable?"
If it helps, you can look at all the test results that the
script uploaded at:
http://pastebin.ca/903970
-- Mark C. Allman, PMP
Hi Mark. I've sort of lost the plot a bit, but do you have your
sound working now?
I ask because the Alsa development folks are working hard on
resolving problems, particularly with the hda intel cards. Alsa
driver 1.0.16 has just been released, and I see many patches
being applied to the hda intel codecs, including your STAC9200
one.
Nigel.
Sound works using:
Pidgin
VLC (playing Rush/Tom Sawyer right now)
RealAudio
It does not work for:
gnome-cd (won't start a track)
grip (starts reading tracks, but no sound)
aplay/arecord ("no soundcard found")
Flash in Firefox
system-config-soundcard (everything's there--just no sound!!)
I can pipe a ".au" file (if I remember the extension correctly)
to /dev/audio and I hear it.
Some "/proc/asound" stuff:
[mcallman@prez X11]$ ls /proc/asound/
card0 cards devices hwdep Intel modules oss pcm seq timers
version [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
HDA Intel at 0xdfffc000 irq 21
[mcallman@prez X11]$ ls /proc/asound/card0
codec#0 codec#1 id oss_mixer pcm0c pcm0p pcm1p
[mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/pcm
00-01: STAC92xx Digital : STAC92xx Digital : playback 1
00-00: STAC92xx Analog : STAC92xx Analog : playback 1 : capture
1 [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/modules
0 snd_hda_intel
[mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/devices
2: : timer
3: : sequencer
4: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
5: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
6: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
7: [ 0- 1]: hardware dependent
8: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent
9: [ 0] : control
[mcallman@prez X11]$ ls -ld /proc/asound/Intel
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2008-02-14 20:18 /proc/asound/Intel ->
card0
Any suggestions would be welcome. If any of the Alsa development
folks would like a test bed to try out ideas just let me know.
-- Mark C. Allman
Hi Mark. I know I've got pulseaudio on the brain, as I had problems
with it, and disabled it, but have you got the default install of F8,
where pulseaudio is enabled? I ask because of the sound apps that you
have working. Realplayer uses OSS, VLC uses natively OSS, or Alsa,
and also Gnomes ESD. Not sure about Pidgin (Gaim), but I believe it
uses OSS for it's sounds. Puzzling why Alsa apps won't work.
If you havn't messed with pulseaudio since installing F8, I think I'd
do a: yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
having done that I'd see if now aplay, audio cd's, etc work.
Enough for now.
Nigel.
The only PulseAudio package I have installed is
pulseaudio-libs-0.9.8-5.fc8. It's needed for
libflashsupport-000-0.1.svn20070904.
Hi Marc. Sorry for the delay in replying. I spent a while today going
back through the alsa-devel archives, and the only reference to the Dell
XPS 1710, was one for the Dell XPS M1710w (which may well be the same
machine), and was to do with a problem with the subwoofer not working
with the alsa 1.0.14 driver, and on a Suse install. See below for the
thread.
http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-August/subject.
html
I'll contact the guy directly, after you've replied to this post, to see
if he had any problems with getting sound working on his machine. I'd
like to clarify some things with you first though.
<Snip>
-- Mark C. Allman
Over to you, and all the best.
Nigel.
For pulseaudio:
The only PulseAudio package I have installed is
pulseaudio-libs-0.9.8-5.fc8.
For option values in modprobe: I tried all ("all") the dell values.
Someone earlier said they used "toshiba" even though their laptop wasn't
a Toshiba, so I thought I'd try it. No luck, of course.
alsamixer:
[mcallman@prez tmp]$ alsamixer
alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such
file or directory
-- Mark C. Allman
Hi Mark. I had a reply back from the guy on the alsa-devel list, that has the
same machine as you. He's using Suse, not F8, but had no problems getting
sound working. See below for his reply.
<quote>
I'm not aware of any initial problem I might have had. However I regularly
install drivers from the hg tree so I'm not too sure about actual versions.
However at the time I posted about my subwoofer problem I did have sound and
wasn't even aware there might be problems (apart from the sound being
somewhat "slim", i.e. missing deep frequencies). On the other hand I usually
use headphones and thus don't recognize that.
Anyway, after applying the patches you refer to above also my building
subwoofer works as adverticed and I do have another slider when invoking
alsamixer. So I'd say with alsa 1.0.1[456] it should work.
So to sum it up:
I have no problems with sound on my XPS M1710 whatsoever.
Feel free to ask more questions and/or compare configurations.
Best,
Michael
<end quote>
I'm still concerned about pulseaudio, and I'm not trying to start an argument.
The fact that that alsamixer is not available appears to indicate that
pulseaudio is still involved in some way or other. You have said that you
only have pulseaudio-libs installed, but the package that disables pulseaudio
is named "alsa-plugins-pulseaudio". Could you please verify that the package
named "alsa-plugins-pulseaudio" is not installed. We're just trying to help
here, and to get your sound working.
As I've said before, running, rpm -q alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, will show if the
package is installed, or Yumex will will also show if it's installed, or if
you use apt, and synaptic, synaptic will show if the package is installed.
Sorry. I'm not trying to wind you up, but just trying to find out if
pulseaudio is enabled. It's causing a lot of problems for some folks, and
disabling it just gets the sounds back.
Nigel.
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