Re: Yum packages (again)


On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 18:19 -0500, David Boles wrote:
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Bill Davidsen wrote:
| Les Mikesell wrote:
|> Bill Davidsen wrote:
|>
|>> With you. Once you have used a non-fedora repository you have assumed
|>> responsibility for determining compatibility and resolving all
|>> conflicts. Once you start using more than one you you have assumed
|>> responsibility for those conflicts as well. The fault is yours.
|>>
|>> The solution is to put both repositories in as disables in the
|>> config, then use --enablerepo on one or the other. I don't suggest
|>> mixing them, I'm still trying to sort a problem I caused myself using
|>> only livna, something used by pine isn't right and I can't find out
|>> what to get it out and clean it up. Fortunately it's not critical on
|>> that system.
|>>
|>> I understand your problem, but you should understand it's YOUR
|>> problem, you caused it, the responsibility lies with you. And for my
|>> broken machine, with me.
|>
|> You are blaming the victim here for something that should be
|> preventable. Repositories don't _have_ to conflict with each other.
|>
| You are damn right I am blaming the victim. If I had a Dodge (Fedora)
| truck, and I enhanced it with some parts from Ford (livna), and then
| went and got some other parts from Chevy (freshrpms), who's fault is it
| if they don't work right together?
|
| Repositories are independent operations with conflicting goals and in
| some cases legal issues. There is no way anyone at Fedora can force
| these 3rd parties to cooperate, and for legal reasons they probably
| shouldn't.
|
| "Da Rock" claimed "Yum would very well be easy to fix and resolve some
| of the major issues here." Please submit patches, or a detailed desing
| showing how yum can tell which identically named parts from different
| sources will work together. The proposed "simple solution" just flat out
| doesn't work, there are basic packages which are not necessarily in the
| package group. We await your solution, and don't add anything new to RPM
| headers which would break all current RPMs.
|
| This is not a Fedora problem, or even a Linux problem, anyone who has
| added 3rd party software from two sources to their Microsoft O/S has
| probably seen problems as well, at least if they use the same devices or
| resources. It's the nature of the system, and at least Linux site are
| far more likely to help than blame the other site.
|
| Until "Da Rock" solves the problem for us it's something the
| administrator needs to control, regardless of the O/S in use.
|


Well said Bill. For the umpteenth time. But I wonder if anyone heard? Nah.
Probably not. ;-)

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~ David
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I have bigger fish to fry people, as I mentioned before. I only use
Fedora due to multimedia issues or I'd be using FreeBSD which has a
better system by far. And I can fix my own systems, but if you want
everybody to jump ship over something stupid like this, then thats
you're problem.

This is not such a big problem anywhere else but on Fedora (particularly
on most popular apps), so that should tell you something.

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