Re: Why is F8 nm-applet Not as Good as the F6 Version?




On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 11:41 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Rick Bilonick <rab@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
When I used networkmanager and nm-applet under Fedora 6, it made it easy
to choose either "wired" or "wireless" networks. You just clicked which
one you wanted. In Fedora 8, nm-applet does not have a "wired" choice
(it only shows the wireless networks). So since I upgraded to Fedora 8

This is not my experience. I see wired and wireless network options.
Wired ones are grayed out unless there is a wire plugged in. If there
is a driver issue, you may not see wired and/or wireless connections if
NM can't see your devices.

about 2 months ago, I have to struggle with networkmanager to use wired
ethernet at work and wireless at home. At work I have to turnoff
networkmanager (via services), kill wpa_supplicant and nm-applet and
type in the dns (nm always overwrites the fixed dns) before connecting
to the wired network. Before I leave work, then I need to re-enable
networkmanager via services and allow networkmanager to control the
wireless card (wlan0) so I'll be able to connect at home. It was SO
simple under F6 and its such a mess under F8. Or am I missing something?
I tried wireless assistant but SELINUX blocks it from running. I also
tried wifiradar but it NEVER connects at home (even though I've given it
the same info). At least nm works at home and at work using WPA when I
need a wireless connection at work.

There is an NM update in updates-testing you might try. NM is under
active development with several new features to come, including
connect-on-boot, better control over connection profiles, etc. For
example, recent NM versions have an Edit Connections entry in the
right-click menu.



So I'm guessing the NetworkManager upgrades aren't working on your end :)

Your experience is widely shared, prompting interest in programs like
"wifi-radar" or "wicd".

On my system, I have just permanently turned off NetworkManager and
used system-config-network to set up a few wireless networks that I
use frequently. Then start them manually with the old

/sbin/ifup myNet

This approach is not so easily adaptable to new environments, but if I
really want to connect, I can see networks with

/sbin/iwlist scan

and then can setup accounts in system-config-network.

Note that s-c-n creates config files in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/. Once y ou set up one wireless
network, supposing it is called "eth1" by default, then there will be
a file "ifcfg-eth1" in network-scripts. If you copy that to
ifcfg-newname, then you can edit that file and then start the wireless
server "newname" instead of eth1.

Well, it is old fashioned, but liberating in a certain way.

Just now, I posted on the wicd thread, you might try that one, I don't
know if it will be better for you.
Rick B.

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