Re: Fedora Makes a Terrible Server?



Roger Heflin wrote:


Fedora ships buggy kernels. As stated previously this is more
upstream's fault,

Beg your pardon, but just because someone writes broken code that _does not_ force a distribution to ship it.


The problem is that the enterprise OS's ship buggy kernels too,

Yes, but they very, very rarely introduce new bugs in an update that breaks a previously working system.

I have found at least one bug in most of the recent enterprise kernels (RHEL3, RHEL4, RHEL5 and SLES9-never tested SLES10), and some of those bugs were very very ugly had at least one of them had long since been fixed upstream, and at least one of those bugs *NEVER* existed in the kernel.org kernels at all.

And the timeline between reporting the bug and getting the fix was...?

And lets take RHEL5 initial release, it did not support file systems larger then 8TB (ext3 only, no XFS), it did not support Areca and 3ware PCIe controllers even though those drivers had been out for 6+ months at the time they shipped RHEL5, and those are most definitely enterprise boards. And the second you add a driver and/or XFS on to RHEL5 you are now tainted and *UNSUPPORTED*.

Do you have some point here - like a system that always supports everything and never fails? I usually don't have as much of a problem having to fiddle with a new machine where you obviously aren't already relying on it or getting known-supported hardware when I don't have time to fiddle as I do with updates breaking previously working things. But, have you tried the Centosplus kernels that put xfs and the drivers that rhel removes back?

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