Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 51, Issue 51



I can not get any videos to work on my system. Please give me
information on how this can be set up. When do you expect nvida to be
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: tar backup on tape doesn't work (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
2. Re: Aloowing access to specific samba users (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
3. Re: A sneak peek at Fedora 9 (Bill Davidsen)
4. Re: A sneak peek at Fedora 9 (Bill Davidsen)
5. Re: using the internal modem on a Thinkpad T61
(Mikkel L. Ellertson)
6. Re: Help with either bash or find... (Bill Davidsen)
7. Re: upgrade from fedora core 6 to 9 (max bianco)
8. Re: LVM & retroactively creating encrypted /home partition
(Bill Davidsen)
9. Re: Wpa_supplicant mystery (Bill Davidsen)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:00:27 -0500
From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: tar backup on tape doesn't work
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <4825B88B.9030204@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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mohammed wrote:
Hi!
How did you solve the problem with
mt -f /dev/st0 status
i get this
/dev/st0: Device or resource busy

thanks

Are you running it as root? Is the tape drive doing something when
you try to run the command? Remember, most tape drives do a bunch of
stuff when you insert a tape, so it may take a while before you can
access the drive.

Mikkel
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:10:15 -0500
From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Aloowing access to specific samba users
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Bob Latham wrote:

Anyway, I have added the user to the share but of course windows still
refuses to have anything to do with it. I'm guessing but windows doesn't
ask for a user name and password as I would expect (error: The account is
not authorized to log in from this station) so I think that linux is using
the password the PC user is logged on to the PC with which is not what I
want at all. How do you make it ask for a user name and password? Bah.
Exasperation!

I've only being trying just over a week to share a folder with a user name
and password so that any windows user that knows the password can access
the share. A 30 second job on W98 its like climbing Everest on Linux.

A couple of things - first, with Win98 you are normally using share
rather then user security when you share a directory on that
machine. Also, because Windows and Linux uses different password
encryption, you have to give Samba users a password in addition to
the standard Linux password. They can be the same, and it can be set
up so that they are kept in sync once created.

If you want to use the Linux passwords directly, you have to tell
Windows to yous unencrypted passwords. This is somewhat of a
security risk. This is covered in the Samba documentation.

Mikkel
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:20:16 -0400
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: A sneak peek at Fedora 9
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 20:56 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
This smells like flash.

Looks like it, too... But what does flash smell like? ;-)

It's hardly a "sneak peak," though. You don't really get to see
anything of it, just a few screen shots. You just watch this lecture
that goes on for about an hour and eighteen minutes, with some audience
members asking some questions that you can't hear.

You could have found out just as much by reading an article, and wasted
far less of your time doing so.

But I can't read an article and do something else, while I can listen
(in)attentively, and when some feature comes up which matters to me, I
can watch. Can't figure out how to get the image to go full screen, tho,
need a magnifying glass for the slides. :-(

I have FC9beta with installs running in a virtual machine under kvm, and
other than having lost my notes on how to make the VM outside accessible
so I can test it as a server I'm happy. I installed the beta, then made
a qcow copy for the updates as of May 9, then did a qcow copy of that to
actually do my playing. So I can give the kids copies of the updates
image and they can play in their own machines. Got to love kvm.

--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:21:04 -0400
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: A sneak peek at Fedora 9
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <4825BD60.8040808@xxxxxxx>
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Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 12:58 -0400, max bianco wrote:
2008/5/8 Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic@xxxxxxxxx>:
Digg it if you like it:
http://digg.com/linux_unix/What_s_new_under_the_hat_A_sneak_peek_at_Fedora_9


Does this video require non-free software or am I missing something?
Not to be a stick in the mud or anything.

Max

I just have the usual software. mplayer, vlc , totem and xine and I can
see the video.

Could see it, couldn't blow it up to full screen.

--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:12:45 -0500
From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: using the internal modem on a Thinkpad T61
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <4825BB6D.4070706@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Globe Trotter wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone know how to use the internal modem on a Thinkpad in
F8? I could not get it to be recognized.

Many thanks,
Trotter

It is probably a software modem. (Win modem) You may be able to find
the information you need to get it working at:

http://www.linmodems.org/

Mikkel
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:37:48 -0400
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Help with either bash or find...
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Gordon Messmer wrote:
Todd Zullinger wrote:
I think something similar with xargs would work too:

find -name '*.mpc' -print0 | \
xargs -0 -i mppdec "{}" "`echo {} | sed s/.mpc/.wav`"


No, because the section in backticks would be executed by the shell,
before xargs.

xargs can't be used to run anything with shell substitution. It doesn't
call system().

It's ugly to use substitution, but being pedantic you can use "bash -c
cmd" and maybe "exec" to do what you want.

Note that I never actually *do* it that way, I'm just noting that if you
insist on that solution it isn't impossible, just ugly.

--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:44:31 -0400
From: "max bianco" <maximilianbianco@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: upgrade from fedora core 6 to 9
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 13:00 -0400, max bianco wrote:
I have noticed that there isn't much traffic about SELinux across this
list.

Perhaps not now, but in the past there's been conspiracy theories
abound, and lots of arguments for and against.


Dare I ask?


Max



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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:59:09 -0400
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: LVM & retroactively creating encrypted /home partition
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <4825C64D.5080506@xxxxxxx>
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Paul Johnson wrote:
Since I had a bad experience with LVM in F6, I've always ignored it
and created partitions the "old fashioned" way.

However, some people here do the default install of Fedora and it
uses LVM and in some cases people FORGET that they want their /home on
a separate partition. So the installer creates a single gigantic
logical volume in which everything is mounted.

See:

lvm> lvs -v
Finding all logical volumes
LV VG #Seg Attr LSize Maj Min KMaj KMin Origin
Snap% Move Copy% Log LV UUID
LogVol00 VolGroup00 1 -wi-ao 295.91G -1 -1 253 0
BSOijT-X3UT-CwpS-Ncdo-7hX8-vfiU-iXzuiA
LogVol01 VolGroup00 1 -wi-ao 1.94G -1 -1 253 1
EG5Jgg-7VaB-megf-63k2-7n15-sCfn-YH6eNs

Before upgrading from Fedora 8 to 9, I want to separate the /home
partition from the rest of this. But I'm a little unsure of the best
approach because I anticipate trying the encrypted partition in Fedora
9. I would rather not just completely reformat the hard disk. I'd
like to set the /home stuff aside on its own place, and then let the
installer erase F8 and do a new install.

I should run lvm and shrink LogVol00 down with lvresize like this:

lvm> lvresize -L 100G

I should not run

lvm> lvcreate VolGroup00 -L 195.91G

I should wait for F9 to do that. Correct? I wait because encryption
cannot be put on retroactively a logical volume.

Suppose I do an upgrade to F9. That would not destroy LogVol00.
Suppose further I'm able to use the custom partition tool to have it
use my empty space for the /home.

The part that has me a bit confused is how I'll get the data off the
old /home directory in LogVol00 onto the encrypted /home that will
exist in LogVol02. I mean, if F9 creates a new /home in the empty
space, and it mounts that under /home (still thinking of it like an
ordinary partition, I guess), does that block access to /home on
LogVol00 ?

If this were me, I would hook up a USB external drive, back up to that,
do the install, copy the data back, and be happy.

And, because I'm moderately paranoid, I'd save it on the external drive
encrypted.

The most common thing to forget when reinstalling is saving the host
keys for ssh and anything else you use with keys or certificates.

--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:07:06 -0400
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Wpa_supplicant mystery
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <4825C82A.7080806@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Dennis Gilmore wrote:
On Saturday 10 May 2008, Adalbert Prokop wrote:
Timothy Murphy wrote on Saturday 10 May 2008:

Hello!

If in fact wpa_supplicant is a necessary part of NetworkManager
even if one is not using WPA,
would it not make more sense to change its name?
NetworkManager uses wpa_supplicant to do network security this way it
doesnt
need to reinvent the wheel. it is the same on all distros.
What is the same on all distros?
Wpa_supplicant? NetworkManager?
NetworkManager using wpa_supplicant?

If in fact a program called wpa_supplicant is run
in order to establish WiFi security
even if WPA is not being used,
wpa_supplicant can also setup WEP encryption, static or based on RADIUS
authentication. AFAIK NetworkManager uses wpa_supplicant as the only
backend to WiFi security. It surely has its advantages, because this way
you have only to deal with *one* helper problem.

I don't know if NM needs wpa_supplicant on unencrypted connections.

Besides, NM is OK if you have rather simple network environment, e.g. only
one WLAN card and one LAN card, you use only static WPA or WEP keys, you
have a DHCP server, and so on, and so on...

Each time the setup is more complex (no LAN DHCP, two WLAN cards or WPA +
PEAP/MSCHAPv2) my experience tells me that it simply can't do it. (V0.6.7
on Ubuntu.) The non-existent documentation does not help either.

That NM is ancient, Fedora-8's and 9's are much more flexible, they support
multiple devices. including mobile broadband devices, many more security
options.

Documentation? NM has been around since FC6, and people seem to keep
saying that the documentation is being worked on. At least on FC9beta it
really didn't work, ignored the hardwire, and brought the WiFi up on a
random open AP. I live between an apartment building and a college,
there are enough open APs available to choose.


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