Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 54, Issue 170



I am kind of new at this,but to the two people that are struggling with
the installation of Fedora 9, it is simpler to install it straight from
the website. I've never tried to install it with a disk




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Today's Topics:

1. Re: arping (Patrick O'Callaghan)
2. Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install
(Patrick O'Callaghan)
3. Re: Evolution: my sent folder just disappeared.
(Patrick O'Callaghan)
4. Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install (Phil Savoie)
5. Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install (Frank Cox)
6. Re: avahi-daemon issues cont. (Gerhard Magnus)
7. wget problem (Paul)
8. Re: sudo GUI frontend (David)
9. ATI driver on F9 (Patrick Kaiser)
10. Re: wget problem (Patrick Kaiser)
11. Re: xmodmap map key to right mouse click. (g)
12. Re: Linux Outlaws (Armin)
13. Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install (g)
14. Re: Linux Outlaws (g)
15. Re: How to search the Fedora List (Aldo Foot)
16. Re: Linux Outlaws (g)
17. Re: Linux Outlaws (Aldo Foot)
18. Re: wget problem (Paul)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:25:58 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: arping
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1219272958.3519.176.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 15:59 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 23:01 +0930, Tim wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 13:30 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Is there any arping available for a FC7 ?

I don't have 7 installed on anything, anymore, but 9 has two arping
commands. One in /sbin/ the other in /usr/sbin/. Neither of which is
in the search path for ordinary users. Try looking for yours in there.
But only /sbin/arping is used by default. So it is strange that there
are two of them.

One is a symlink to the other.

poc



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:29:26 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1219273166.3519.179.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 18:03 -0400, Phil Savoie wrote:
Trying to load F9 on a compaq R3000. Gets to the resolving
dependencies
section then pops out my dvd asking for the first cd. I pop it back
in
and click on ok and then it tells me that it is the incorrect disk
and
so now I am in a loop.

I don't have emerald slippers to click three times while I mumble "I
wish you would install", so would anyone have any ideas on this?

Sounds like you have the wrong ISO image burned to your DVD. Perhaps you
burned the first CD image by mistake?

poc



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:31:47 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Evolution: my sent folder just disappeared.
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1219273307.3519.180.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 15:41 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 22:34 +0000, g wrote:
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linuxguy wrote:
<snip>
I will do this when I get my Sent folder back. Right now it isn't
present in EV to do this.

if you are adventurous, you can try what i did a few years back with ev.

with a file browser, locate your 'sent' folder, open with a text editor.
then manually save to a new file, 'sent00'.

open 'sent00', page down about half way into it, back up to start of a
message. then delete messages to end, save as a new file name, 'sent01'.

reopen 'sent00', page down to message you started of message you started
you delete from, delete back to start of file, save as 'sent02'.

rename original 'sent' file to 'sent.org', open a terminal, or command shell,
touch 'sent' to create a new 'sent'.

look at associated files of 'sent', create them for 'sent01' and 'sent02'.

reopen ev and you should now have an empty 'sent' plus a new 'sent01' and
'sent02'.

there may be an easier way, but this did work for me.
----
I found that emacs gagged on 2Gb files and had to use vi for files of
this size but it was painful.

You can use the 'split' command (man split for details).

you could conceivably split the file into 8 pieces and thus only lose 8
e-mails.

I'm pretty sure formail (part of the procmail package) can do this
safely.

poc



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:06:56 -0400
From: Phil Savoie <psavoie1783@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48ACA390.8010900@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 18:03 -0400, Phil Savoie wrote:
Trying to load F9 on a compaq R3000. Gets to the resolving
dependencies
section then pops out my dvd asking for the first cd. I pop it back
in
and click on ok and then it tells me that it is the incorrect disk
and
so now I am in a loop.

I don't have emerald slippers to click three times while I mumble "I
wish you would install", so would anyone have any ideas on this?

Sounds like you have the wrong ISO image burned to your DVD. Perhaps you
burned the first CD image by mistake?

poc

Not unless the first cd is 3.3gb in size,

Phil



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:15:21 -0600
From: Frank Cox <theatre@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Phil Savoie <psavoie1783@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20080820171521.6b0dcc35.theatre@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:06:56 -0400
Phil Savoie <psavoie1783@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Not unless the first cd is 3.3gb in size,

Are you sure you got an un-corrupted copy of the image that you burned to the
DVD?

--
MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:20:15 -0700
From: Gerhard Magnus <magnus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: avahi-daemon issues cont.
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1219274415.4959.4.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 15:54 -0700, Gerhard Magnus wrote:
When avahi-daemon is started during booting, I get this message:

Starting avahi daemon... Timeout reached while waiting for return value.
Could not receive return value from daemon process. FAILED

Then the system comes up normally. According to system-config-services,
avahi-daemon is enabled and dead.

Fedora documentation says:

Avahi is an implementation of zeroconf and is useful for detecting
devices and services on local network without a DNS server. This is also
the same as mDNS. Most users may have this disabled. Please note that in
order to use the networked audio functionality of pulseaudio you will
need Avahi enabled.

I would like to use the networked audio functionality of pulseaudio --
and in the process perhaps come to understand the black hole of
pulseaudio itself :) So any ideas as to how to get avahi-daemon working
or at least how to troubleshoot this problem further?

Thanks for the help! --Jerry

OK, after thrashing about for awhile I tried something "obvious":

root@PuteB Wed Aug 20 16:10:25
[199] /home/magnusg $ /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon restart
Shutting down Avahi daemon: [ OK ]
Starting Avahi daemon... [ OK ]

which seems to work. But what's going on? Is the system starting
services in the wrong order? Do the other boxes on the network have to
be operational first for avahi-daemon to come up during booting?



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:22:37 +0100
From: Paul <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: wget problem
To: fedora-list <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1219274557.26684.59.camel@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi,

I'm trying to grab all of the .zip files from www.urbanfonts.com using
wget.

If I use flashgot, it will work for the page I'm on, but the output from
flashgot doesn't tell me which options are used?

All of the files are in the form of xyz.php?fontname.zip.

Any ideas on how to get them easier than doing every page with flashgot?

TTFN

Paul
--
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:13:52 -0400
From: David <dgboles@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: sudo GUI frontend
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48ACA530.7050200@xxxxxxxxx>
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Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 20 August 2008 12:05:34 Gilboa Davara wrote:
Hello all,

Can anyone please point me to a good sudo GUI front-end? (Password
dialog box).
While I'm using KDE 4.1, I don't mind using a gtk box.

I tried using kdesu with or w/o the kdesurc - but it doesn't seem to
work.

'/bin/su -' does work, though in some cases you will need to add $u (or is
it %U?). I like a root konsole profile, so I used it there, with a different
display colour for clarity :-)


I have my user prompt in bright white and my root prompt in bright red.

- --


David
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:29:07 +0200
From: Patrick Kaiser <patrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: ATI driver on F9
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20080820232907.GA11674@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi,

since I installed F9 on my new desktop with an ATI Radeon 3600, I was
still waiting for the ATI driver update, because of "problems" with the
newest Xorg version.
Finaly, today there was a release on ATI site
(http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html)

Just tried it out, but there is also the same error. Does anyone knows
more, when there will be a compatible driver from ATI for the newest
Xorg version?
I do not really want to downgrade my Xorg version. :(

Greets, Patrick

--

Patrick Kaiser

URL: http://argonius.de
EMail: patrick.kaiser@xxxxxxxxxxx
RIPE: PK3264-RIPE



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:31:01 +0200
From: Patrick Kaiser <patrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: wget problem
To: paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora
<fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20080820233101.GB11674@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:22:37AM +0100, Paul wrote:
Hi,

I'm trying to grab all of the .zip files from www.urbanfonts.com using
wget.

If I use flashgot, it will work for the page I'm on, but the output from
flashgot doesn't tell me which options are used?

All of the files are in the form of xyz.php?fontname.zip.

Any ideas on how to get them easier than doing every page with flashgot?

TTFN

Paul
--
???Sie knnen mich aufreizen und wirklich hei machen!




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Hi Paul,

do you have a complete list of the fontnames? Then you can try it in a
loop?

Greets


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Patrick Kaiser

URL: http://argonius.de
EMail: patrick.kaiser@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:38:16 +0000
From: g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: xmodmap map key to right mouse click.
To: korgull@xxxxxxx, For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48ACAAE8.8040203@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

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Marcel Janssen wrote:
<snip>
xmodmap -e "keycode 116 = Pointer_Button3"

i thought 'button 3' was equivalent to 'center button'

After using xev, this key shows "Pointer_Button3" but it doesn't trigger a
right mouse button event.

Anyone having an idea how to make it work ?

have a look at these:

/usr/share/X11/xkb/compat/mousekeys

then give a look at;

control center > regional & accessibility > keyboard shortcuts > \
global shortcuts > miscellaneous > mouse emulation

control center > peripherals > mouse > mouse navigation



- --
tc,hago.

g
.

in a free world without fences, who needs gates.

learn linux:
'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/
'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:43:31 -0300
From: Armin <feng.shaun@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Linux Outlaws
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <200808202043.31712.feng.shaun@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

On Wednesday 20 August 2008 19:00:12 Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:46:29 +0000

g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
you did not mention better part of page;

http://gizmodo.com/5035456/blue-screen-of-death-strikes-birds-
nest-during
-opening-ceremonies-torch-lighting

Ah, that's almost certainly explained by it being a pirate
copy of windows without the Microsoft Genuine Advantage :-).
hmmm how about me getting 2 of those in one day with vista? and,
well, it came on my comp, so it should be genuine! :)

--
Armin



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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:46:14 +0000
From: g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Fedora 9 asking for disc 1 on dvd install
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48ACACC6.90400@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

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Phil Savoie wrote:
<snip>
Not unless the first cd is 3.3gb in size,

when did you pull it?
did you run 'sha1sum'?
did you run media check?


- --
tc,hago.

g
.

in a free world without fences, who needs gates.

learn linux:
'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/
'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:48:11 +0000
From: g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Linux Outlaws
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48ACAD3B.6050102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Armin wrote:
<snip>
hmmm how about me getting 2 of those in one day with vista? and,
well, it came on my comp, so it should be genuine! :)

i bet that is what chinese are saying about now.


- --
tc,hago.

g
.

in a free world without fences, who needs gates.

learn linux:
'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/
'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:50:55 -0700
From: "Aldo Foot" <lunixer@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How to search the Fedora List
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
<3d22fc520808201650sa59ec2diab81f3f367a077ac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 17:43 -0700, Aldo Foot wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Searching the Fedora List came up in another thread. I thought this
important enough information to have a thread of its own. See web link
below:
http://marc.info/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2

The link is useful.
But I believe it would be an improvement to the Fedora archives to add
a search box.
I'd be easier to find info. I know I can use Fedora's "Find", but how come
this very active list does not have a better search mechanism; why resort
to goggle? not that there's anything wrong with it.

Speculating here, but it could be because the lists are managed with
Mailman. If you look around, very few MM lists have search boxes,
basically because it requires hackery to set up (MM doesn't come with
any search funcionality). Even the mailman-users list itself doesn't
have its own search function! (See
http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030520)

poc


Fair enough. The link you provided answered the 'why' of my question.
Something good came ouf of the discussion for me so far: adding Markmail
to my search bar.

~af



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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:52:56 +0000
From: g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Linux Outlaws
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48ACAE58.2080304@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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g wrote:
<snip>
i bet that is what chinese are saying about now.

thinking about opening show, i bet last torch runner is glad control system
did not have a 'blue screen'.

then again, that one may have been a linux system.



- --
tc,hago.

g
.

in a free world without fences, who needs gates.

learn linux:
'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/
'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:55:40 -0700
From: "Aldo Foot" <lunixer@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Linux Outlaws
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
<3d22fc520808201655t71616d7cv1d20ac1e3bf41b68@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:07 PM, g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Tom Horsley wrote:
<snip>
Ah, that's almost certainly explained by it being a pirate
copy of windows without the Microsoft Genuine Advantage :-).

what? you think the chinese would use illegal copies?


Nahhhh! why when you can buy a $500 piece of software for $99?
It's still paid for, right?

~af



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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:42:33 +0100
From: Paul <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: wget problem
To: fedora-list <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1219275753.26684.62.camel@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi,

do you have a complete list of the fontnames? Then you can try it in a
loop?

'fraid not - the names are stored somewhere on the site and added as a
$POST (by the look of it) when you click on the link...

TTFN

Paul

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