Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 95



Hello Kelvin Kofler,

I meant to say Fedora 9.

With Best Regards,
Winiston.P
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Today's Topics:

1. Yum Errors (Dan Bunyard)
2. Re: no new kernels? (Steve Repo)
3. Re: Regarding Fedora core 9 (Kevin Kofler)
4. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
5. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
6. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
7. Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
it ! Folderview and panel questions... (Kevin Kofler)
8. Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail (Tim)
9. Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
tricks thread. (Kevin Kofler)
10. Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
tricks thread. (Kevin Kofler)
11. Re: KDE4.1- Plasma crashing (Kevin Kofler)
12. Re: blue screen of death after logout (Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak)
13. Re: SELinux kerneloops and dhclient issues (Daniel J Walsh)
14. Re: blue screen of death after logout (Patrick O'Callaghan)
15. Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
it ! Folderview and panel questions... (Patrick O'Callaghan)
16. Re: yum update yum;yum update yum-utils; WORKS (landon kelsey)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:31:34 -0400
From: "Dan Bunyard" <danodemano@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Yum Errors
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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After running yum update a second time on my Fedora 9 system, I am now
receiving this when I try to run yum:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in <module>
yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 229, in user_main
errcode = main(args)
File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 84, in main
base.getOptionsConfig(args)
File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 184, in getOptionsConfig
enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 189, in
_getConfig
startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins,enabled_plugins)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 355, in
doPluginSetup
plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins, enabled_plugins)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 152, in
__init__
self._importplugins(types)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 195, in
_importplugins
self._loadplugin(modulefile, types)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 251, in
_loadplugin
module = imp.load_module(modname, fp, pathname, description)
File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/filter-data.py", line 111
('committers', 'committer')]
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!!
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:10:36 +0530
From: "Steve Repo" <scmuser@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: no new kernels?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
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On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:35 AM, landon kelsey <landonmkelsey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
ditto! I suppose changing too many things at once!

Never change horses in mid stream

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Tom Horsley <tom.horsley@xxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Tom Horsley <tom.horsley@xxxxxxx>
Subject: no new kernels?
To: "Fedora List" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:03 PM

Just asking :-). I was kinda surprised that no new
kernel showed up in any of the F8 or F9 updates
(for me anyway).


I'm rather wait for 2.6.27 since it's just around the corner (i'm
waiting for ath9k) :)

Steve



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:46:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Regarding Fedora core 9
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T104625-300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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winiston <winiston <at> futuraautomation.com> writes:
Currently i am facing the problem in Fedora core 9

Fedora core 9 does not exist. You mean Fedora 9.

Kevin Kofler



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:57:59 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Yum Error
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T105644-593@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Jim <mickeyboa <at> sbcglobal.net> writes:
<Type 'exceptions KeyError' > yum.YumRepo. YumRepository object at
0xd69cpc><traceback object at 0xb87366c>

This error has nothing to do with signing keys.

That said, Rawhide packages are NOT signed. That's because they're NOT intended
for the average user to install and in particular, MUST NOT be installed on a
Fedora 9 system.

Kevin Kofler



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:00:08 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Yum Error
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T105813-791@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Jim <mickeyboa <at> sbcglobal.net> writes:
I know that.
But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.

There's a reason: it has been built for Rawhide and thus wants Rawhide
libraries. This in turn forces other applications to be upgraded to versions
also built against Rawhide libraries, which means you're upgrading a huge
number of packages to Rawhide versions and effectively no longer running F9,
but a broken mix of F9 and Rawhide.

KDE 4.1.1 packages actually targeted for F9 are about to be pushed to
updates-testing (and the stable updates about a week later).

Kevin Kofler



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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:05:58 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Yum Error
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T110033-187@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Jim <mickeyboa <at> sbcglobal.net> writes:
I know this may shock you Patrick but I now have kde-4.1.1-fc10 running
in FC9. No error messages.

<SARCASM>Congratulations!</SARCASM> You are now running an unsupported mix of
F9 and Rawhide packages. You are going to encounter many bugs due to the fact
that the mix is completely untested. You are also going to end up with some
packages which got updated from Rawhide getting no security updates because
Rawhide has a newer version and you're not pulling the security updates from
Rawhide (because chances are you didn't even keep track of WHICH packages you
installed from Rawhide, it's definitely not just KDE, due to the network of
dependencies and reverse-dependencies). And there is NO reliable way to get
back to stock F9 without reinstalling.

So you're left with only 2 options:
A. upgrade to Rawhide completely, track Rawhide and eventually end up with F10,
assuming you manage to jump off Rawhide at the right time and won't drag in F11
Rawhide stuff again.
B. completely reformat and reinstall F9 from scratch and NEVER EVER AGAIN touch
the Rawhide repository.

We're building KDE updates for F9 for a reason!

Kevin Kofler



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:23:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
it ! Folderview and panel questions...
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T112248-110@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan <at> gmail.com> writes:
Craig was mistaken. Right-click on empty space to a get a menu which
includes adding widgets. To add an app, Right-click on it in Kicker (or
Dolphin).

You mean Kickoff (i.e. the menu). There's no Kicker in KDE 4.

Kevin Kofler



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:59:22 +0930
From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail
To: gayleard@xxxxxxxxxx, "Community assistance, encouragement, and
advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1221132562.2926.1.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 14:59 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Also I assume if They start a service by default
They must have some reason to do that.

There's quite a few "running by default" services that don't seem
sensible defaults. e.g. There's an ISDN service, and that's such an
unusual type of comms that I'd expect anyone using it would know how to
turn on the service for themselves.

--
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I
read messages from the public lists.





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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:29:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
tricks thread.
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T112822-602@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

landon kelsey <landonmkelsey <at> yahoo.com> writes:
ridiculous! does anybody put directions on a toilet?

Many people do...
http://images.google.com/images?q=toilet+instructions

Kevin Kofler



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:26:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
tricks thread.
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T112616-951@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

linuxguy <linuxguy123 <at> gmail.com> writes:
Question: Is there a way so that when I click on a folder in a folder
view that it opens a new folder rather than with dolphin ?

No.

Kevin Kofler



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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:17:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE4.1- Plasma crashing
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <loom.20080911T111644-157@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

linuxguy <linuxguy123 <at> gmail.com> writes:
On booting F9 with the recent KDE4.1 update, I get:

A Fatal Error Occurred
The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal
11 (SIGSEGV).

This is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461848
This was reported to us only after 4.1.0 went stable.

Kevin Kofler



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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:08:05 -0400
From: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" <mjc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: blue screen of death after logout
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <48C90A25.80200@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability.
Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets

Why does the monitor change modes after logout, anyway? gdm isn't
working at a different resolution than the desktop...

- Mike



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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:43:23 -0400
From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: SELinux kerneloops and dhclient issues
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Stephen Croll wrote:
Daniel J Walsh wrote:
So it looks like you already have a leaked file descriptor in the shell
that you are running these commands from

Does ls -lZ /proc/self/fd show anything stange?
Yes it does, fd 25:

[root@gerbil ~]# ls -lZ /proc/self/fd
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 0 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 1 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 2 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 25 -> socket:[18571]
lr-x------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 3 -> /proc/3446/fd

It would appear fd 3 is what ls is using to read the entries in
/proc/self/fd (also verified with strace):

[root@gerbil ~]# ls -lZ /proc/self/fd &
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 0 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 1 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 2 -> /dev/pts/0
lrwx------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 25 -> socket:[18571]
lr-x------ root root
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 3 -> /proc/3463/fd
[1] 3463
[1]+ Done ls --color=auto -lZ /proc/self/fd

I've been trying to figure out the mysteries of NetworkManager and
mixing wired and wireless connections. I just noticed that if I don't
have NetworkManager configured at boot, I don't get the AVC denial nor
do I see the socket on fd 25.

Additionally, I noticed that even if NetworkManager is configured at
boot, I don't see the AVC denial/fd 25 issue when running in a virtual
terminal. Upon further investigation, this issue only seems to occur
when running KDE+konsole, but not KDE+gnome-terminal, nor
GNOME+konsole, nor GNOME+gnome-terminal.

So KDE+Konsole seems to be leaking a file descriptor.

Also, I don't see fd 25 when connecting remotely (over SSH) and
running the above ls command.

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Steve Croll



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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:18:44 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: blue screen of death after logout
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1221137324.13947.5.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:08 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
> If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability.
> Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets

Why does the monitor change modes after logout, anyway? gdm isn't
working at a different resolution than the desktop...

Could be because the X server is restarted.

poc



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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:26:10 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
it ! Folderview and panel questions...
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1221137770.13947.8.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 11:23 +0000, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan <at> gmail.com> writes:
> Craig was mistaken. Right-click on empty space to a get a menu which
> includes adding widgets. To add an app, Right-click on it in Kicker (or
> Dolphin).

You mean Kickoff (i.e. the menu). There's no Kicker in KDE 4.

Yes. Ironically I could never remember the name Kicker since it means
nothing whereas Kickoff does kind of mean something :-)

poc



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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:56:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: landon kelsey <landonmkelsey@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: yum update yum;yum update yum-utils; WORKS
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <422344.20829.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I get all ALL kinds of advice on these forums!

I've gotten this:

yum clean all
yum clean metadata
yum clean dbcache

from several different sources.

I am spread way too thin already to become an expert on yum, XORG,
X11, SELinux, the kernel, device drivers, etc.
and many other technologies I have NO knowledge of!

I will use yum as an update mechanism and trust its creators

as I do with XP Prof.


--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: yum update yum;yum update yum-utils; WORKS
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 4:11 AM

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:32:16 -0700 (PDT), landon kelsey wrote:

my yum update now show all done

I was told one must do these occasionally :

yum clean all
yum clean metadata
yum clean dbcache

Who has said that? It's nonsense, because "all" implies
"metadata dbcache packages headers". No need to run three
different commands if you want to purge everything. These
options are explained in the manual, btw.

yum update

or get nothing when there IS something to get!

"yum clean metadata" is enough to make Yum re-download the repository
metadata (instead of reusing cached data for 30 minutes). When refetching
metadata it is possible that you are assigned to a different mirror
that is more up-to-date than your previous one. There is NO guarantee
for that.

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