Re: NM fails to connect when booting ?? -[SOLVED]

On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 00:48 +1030, Tim wrote:
On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 11:54 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Am I alone in thinking the "per user" paradigm is crazy?
How many people actually have WiFi laptops used by several people
who want to connect in different ways?

How many average users would have a wireless access point that lets them
have different user logons?

Every one that I've seen has just ONE set of logon credentials for
everything that connects to it. I strikes me that this per-user idea is
being implemented in the wrong way. It could only work for something
beyond the actual wireless connection.

Any serious enterprise?

WPA with PEAP is standard here. User credentials are checked against a
system-wide userid/password directory. Only credentialed
employees/students can gain access to the campus network. Guests have a
separate, restricted network that is open for anyone.

There certainly are reasons to support system-wide, on-boot connections,
but per-user connections are a good model for many mobile apps.

Now, my laptop doesn't get much use from different users, but I do have
to control many different connections:

* home (WPA)
* office (WPA/PEAP)
* Jittery Joe's (NOT Starbucks!)
* remote office I visit frequently (currently WPA)
* homes of several different friends, family, and colleagues
(typically WPA or WEP)
* hotels and airports (and Starbucks 8^( ) when I travel
(Web-authenticated access)
* remote work locations (could be anything).

Accessing those on boot doesn't make much sense (how would I choose
which connection when multiple ones are visible, and how would I
authenticate?), and I don't do much with the laptop that doesn't involve
being logged in.

I don't think my usage pattern is all that unique.

Per-user access controls in NM do have one problem: once I've
authenticated, if I log out, the connection stays up and the next user
is still authenticated with my credentials. For work, that would be a
problem if the machine were actually multi-user and I didn't trust other
users, because the network managers expect the logged in user to be the
authenticated user. For other locations, it might be a problem if the
next user isn't authorized.

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Matthew Saltzman

Clemson University Math Sciences
mjs AT clemson DOT edu
http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs

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