Re: Getting rid of /boot



On Saturday 05 December 2009, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 19:30 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 05 December 2009, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 12:33 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 05 December 2009, Wayne Feick wrote:
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:30 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
Folderol even. My objection to LVM is two fold.

1. It won't allow one to save things in the /home tree when doing
an upgrade or re-install. I have an almost 10GB corpus of email,
and several scripts that are needed for my daily operations that
need to be preserved. LVM makes that impossible.

Can you elaborate? I use LVM on all my systems, and whenever I move
to a new Fedora release I carry the old /home tree forward to the
new installation.

Wayne.

And just how do you do that? The last time I tried to save /home,
anaconda would not proceed until I checked the format it box. As I'm
an alpha test site for amanda, the recovery was doable and was done,
but what kind of twisted reasoning gives anaconda the right to demand
I destroy my data?

Well, nothing (unless it's on a partition that has to be formatted for
an install, like /).

And I've never had that problem. If /home is a separate LV, in
Anaconda, select the PV with the /home LV inside it. You'll have to
reset the mount points for all the LVs (an annoyance, to be sure, that I
wish could be fixed), but you don't have to format /home (or /opt,
or /usr/local, etc.) if it is a separate LV (or if it's on a separate
partition).

I also tried that once, and convinced it I didn't want it formatted,
about FC6 I think. It bought it I thought, till I found it had made a
/home directory on /, the proceeded to write the new /home with its
defaults. I took a bit of detective work to ascertain that my /home
partition still existed, but wasn't ever used and was not in /etc/fstab
as a separate entry. Dumb was NOT my comment when I found that.

There's always a /home directory on the root filesystem.

Of course.

If you have a
separate /home filesystem, the /home directory on the root filesystem is
the mount point for the /home filesystem. If the instruction to mount
your /home filesystem on the /home directory is not in /etc/fstab, it's
because you didn't set the mount point for that filesystem (whether it's
a partition or a LV) during installation.

ISTR I did, but could be wrong, its quite a ways back up the log by now, so
I'll plead oldtimers. Since I retired at 67 and I've been collecting SS for
8 years already, that isn't too much of a stretch. :)

(Not that it's clear you need
to do that during installation... If you know *nix filesystem
structure, you know what's needed, but if not, it's not clear how you
find out. I did a fair amount of reading when I first installed RHL
3.0.3!)

Chuckle, that beats me, my first install was RH5.0.

I need to install F12 here at some point, and it sure would be a hell of a
lot easier if F10 had enough libraries installed to run gparted to prepare a
drive the way _I_ want it and tell anaconda to go pound sand. For instance,
why will it not accept a /boot partition specified for more than 199
megabytes?

Why will it not accept a separate /root partition?

Why will it not accept a separate /var partition?

Or a separate /etc partition?

When I lost my boot drive about a month ago, I used gparted to set a drive up
the way my experience said it should be, then rsync'd everything to the new
partitions, fixed the new drives fstab to use the labels I put on with
gparted, moved the drive to the sata0 connector figuring I could boot the F10
dvd in the rescue mode and do a grub-install. But my F10 dvd had faded, so I
had to get a friend to dl and burn me a fresh copy, which I then used to
install grub. On the reboot I was back to a fully working F10, with one very
noticeable difference, the machine is now 2-3x faster. And has remained so.

All those separate partitions that the installer won't let you do? I'll let
a df report testify.
[root@coyote .kde]# df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda3 100790036 9356348 86313776 10% /
/dev/sda1 404470 177420 206168 47% /boot
/dev/sda5 30233896 8013188 20684896 28% /opt
/dev/sda6 30233896 3822808 24875276 14% /home
/dev/sda7 30233896 10849192 17848892 38% /root
/dev/sda8 30233896 4082168 24615916 15% /var
/dev/sda9 30233896 193824 28504260 1% /tmp
/dev/sda10 704924448 91152808 577963560 14% /usr

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