Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?

I wonder if I am alone in finding some of the developments in Fedora-16
actually make life harder for the user?

I'd take grub2 and systemctl as two examples.
In each case I've read the documentation and understand the motivation
behind these developments.
But I remain unconvinced that the gains outweigh the disadvantages
of methods that are much harder to configure and use.

I don't think this is just a matter of unfamiliarity.
I think one can say objectively that the new methods
are more complicated than those they replace.

As a crude measure of complication the new commands
take longer to type than the old,
eg "systemctl start openvpn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
compared with "start service openvpn".

And the output of the new commands seems much more verbose than the old:
eg compare the output of "systemctl -a" or "systemctl list-units"
with that of "chkconfig --list".

Could anyone bringing in these changes have honestly answered "Yes"
if asked whether the new method would simplify life for the user?



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