Re: [kde] smb://

On Friday 25 May 2007, Hans van der Merwe <hvdmerwe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
about 'Re: [kde] smb://':
On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 05:06 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Friday 25 May 2007 03:56:33 Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Anyone know if there are plans for kio_smb to accept MS version of
smb:// URIs.
ie "smb:\\server\share" or more accurately "\\server\share"
Ye, sure, MS makes up "standards" as they go along, but I dont see them
conforming anytime soon, so I think KDE must pickup the ball.

I've heard a phrase tossed around my office a few times: "Lack of planning
on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part." IMO, it's not
KDEs role to take for for MS slack.

That said, I do understand your point. Working well in a hetrogenous
environment means working with 50+% (at least) the the /other/ systems.
In most offices that means working well with MS.

Patches Welcome! ;)

Anyway, I think the whole kio idea must be implemented on a much
"native" layer of the OS, not the windows manager. Now when I browse a
ODF or GIMP file on our network and double-click on it - GIMP and
OpenOffice just shouts at me - because they dont understand smb://

If you used karbon/krita and koffice they wouldn't have a problem with it.

The windows manager (being KDE, Gnome, etc) must request some "network
layer" (I think FUSE is something like this) to mount and provide a
temporary directory to that share, then anything that can access local
files will be able to access the network share.

Konq will do part of this if you set up your file type associations
properly. Using %f/%F instead of %u/%U causes Konq to copy the data to a
temporary directory and open it from there. You don't get to write to the
data though. (Well, I suppose you could, but it would simpyl write to the
temporary directory.)

I do wish URI-protocol handling was "pluggable" at the X/freedesktop (or
DBus?) layer instead of at the KDE (and GNOME?) layer, it would make Free
Software Desktops even more enjoyable than they are now.

I don't, but I've been the only (or one of two) linux users in various
Windows domains (of different sizes) for years now

So what do you do when someone sends you link to server share?

Tell them to put it on the internal wiki. [I've been the wiki-nista at two
(at least) of my workplaces.] Or simply navigate there manually. I have
bookmarks and/or cifs mount points set up for the most common locations.

That said, it's never been my job to shuffle documents around, so 3 UNC
paths a week is probably an all-time high *for me*. (I am reminded: "You
are not your user.")

Copy-Paste-Replace?
This will not fly, even with willing computer users. Just as
copy-paste-uudecode is not the accepted way of viewing email attached
images anymore.

Well, that's 'cause uuencoding and MIME, as well as PNG and JPEG are
standards. Try viewing an embeded/attached xls work*** in
mutt/kmail/evolution. If MS wants to put together a standard that the
rest of the world can agree on for (the equivalent of) UNC paths and
follow it, then it'll get done.

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