Re: [kde] Installing kde from scratch

I haven't looked to see if it's possible but I wondered if one of the bootable
cd/dvds could be used to install source to a hard drive. I suspect that
knopix might be the best bet.

My basic idea was to install dual boot, a kernel,shell etc and so on up to
KDE. Once I have that other things aren't a problem. I find that the suse
distro for instance often doesn't have what I want on it. For me the best
source repository is google etc -> sourceforge or the authors web page. The
problem for me is that I would need some concise help about options and
installation - not the usual verbose stuff that's about which is why I asked
about web links.

It's a pity KDE doesn't do it's own un supported distro. That would be
wonderful. Just KDE's normal apps and nothing else except maybe cups. 2 such
installations on a machine would leave something to go back to if things got
messed up or the latest KDE proved unsuitable for a while until its sorted
out. Developers might find it useful as a test bench standard too. It could
even make upwards migration easier. If any one is tempted I would hope they
would also add the facilities for dual booting an existing windoze partitions
though. Unfortunately I have to use it from time to time and have a feeling
from the specs that a vm will cripple my cpu.

John

On Wednesday 30 January 2008 01:23, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
John wrote:
From time to time I've seen the comment on here that to get the most from

linux it's best to install from scratch - kernel and then on up.

As I'm about to go for a complete machine rebuild I'm tempted to try it
but haven't had much luck finding a decent web page with complete
instructions. One of my main concerns are lib files as distro's take a
lot of the sweat out of that. Anyone know of one. Or have a better
suggestion.

Failing that I'm also wondering which distro uses the most vanilla and up
to date set up and above all else updates with most ease. Suse likes to
just ignore what was there and the update that are provided often cripple
what ever is there.

The current situation isn't very good. The major commercial distros
aren't really GNU/Linux, but rather, OSes based on GNU/Linux.

Fedora was OK except that PAM was mandatory until they decided that they
would use SecureLinux. This seems to be an unsolvable problem since
features such as PAM and SecureLinux can not be made as optional
features. This means that there is no such thing as a "vanilla" distro.

IAC, the best way to do this is to do it backwards. Start with a distro
for the base and build stuff from source and working your way down from
the top. But, that just begs the question since you are still looking
for a "vanilla" distro.

So, although I do have a system that is basically scratch -- I still
have some Fedora RPMs (I started with version 1) but find that I had to
stop upgrading the RPMs with version 5 +/- and have had to replace them
with built from source except for the startup code and application
packages.

You can try Linux From Scratch, but it is a lot of work. If that looks
like too much for you, I would try Gentoo Linux and after you are
comfortable with that, you can try LFS.

It would be very helpful if there was a base distro -- just enough to
boot and run an FTP client as a way to start, since building from
scratch means that you need to solve the bootstrap problem -- LFS shows
how to solve this, but you need to have something installed first to
build from scratch.

--
Regards
John

Suse 10.0
KDE 3.4.2 B
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