Re: [kde-linux] Users guide to KDE?

On Sunday 06 July 2008, Randy Kramer wrote:
Note that I've reordered at least one paragraph to make my response more
convenient for myself (and hopefully, more coherent for others ;-)

No problem :)

On Sunday 06 July 2008 09:55 am, Kevin Krammer wrote:

I am afraid that it currently looks like the user base has expanded
beyond those who value first hand information about what is going on and
will move the information culture away from community style to top-down
controlled coporate style.

I hate to think that has to be the case ...


But it seems that sharing insight into the ongoing development process is
sometimes interpreted as some kind of release announcement, dispite
release announcement usually being marked as such.

That puts a burden on the reader to remember that if a post doesn't say
"release announcement" he has to be consider that the information could
represent something further in the future than the next release.

As primarily a reader (rather than an announcer), I'd propose instead a
(short) disclaimer on each post, something like (but to be wordsmithed to
make it as clear and concise as possible):

"Discussions on this mailing list may refer to features that won't make it
into the next KDE release, or even to speculative features that never make
it into a KDE release. Before spreading rumors, ask or just please be

I don't see how this puts less burden on the reader, since it is still a form
of marking articles. Even worse now the marking is not used to highlight the
few special articles, but to emphasis all the personal opinions.

From my point of view this would be kind of backwards, especially since the
media (e.g. blog, mailinglist) already shows the difference to the official
press releases (on project's homepage or directly linked to from there).

I guess I'm trying to avoid "invite-only planets for those who value
in-depth information". Maybe that would not be so objectionable if the
invite-only net is fairly wide or not difficult to pass--I'd start by
suggesting that such planets (I don't really know what a planet is) should
be open to almost any interested user, and maybe, when a user subscribes,
he should read a more extended form of the disclaimer.

I hope we will never have to surrender to the closed information world by
adopting their strategies, but if that is the last resort before not
communicating at all, restrictions will have to be hard to pass, since
the "fairly wide or not difficult to pass" approach has than been proved to
be a failure.

Lets hope that for once humanity will not be held back by those who think that
the ability to think for yourself is just an abomination of nature.


Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer
KDE user support, developer mentoring

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