Re: 2.6.6-mm2

From: Bill Davidsen (davidsen_at_tmr.com)
Date: 05/17/04

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Date:	Mon, 17 May 2004 16:52:20 -0400

    Adrian Bunk wrote:
    > On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 09:39:32AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
    >
    >>On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 09:18, Adrian Bunk wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 04:25:40AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>...
    >>>>Wim explained that any application changes now won't be widely deployed for
    >>>>another year. During that period the ability to run existing Oracle setups
    >>>>requires that hugepage allocation be available to unprivileged
    >>>>applications.
    >>>>...
    >>>>It means that if people install a kernel.org machine on their database
    >>>>server, the database *just won't work*. This is not good for those users,
    >>>>for the kernel developers or for Linux's reputation in general.
    >>>>...
    >>>
    >>>That sounds silly when talking about Oracle.
    >>>
    >>>Oracle says:
    >>> Which Kernels are supported?
    >>>
    >>> Oracle does not support modified or recompiled kernels. Recompiled
    >>> kernels are not supported with or without source modifications.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>I doubt there are many "existing Oracle setups" that will risk to lose
    >>>all Oracle support by installing a different kernel.
    >>>
    >>
    >>No, I doubt so as well. Then again, why force them into a vendor
    >>kernel? At the very least, it would be nice to be able to benchmark
    >>vanilla against the vendors.
    >>...
    >
    >
    > I think I recall times when code contributions to the kernel were only
    > judged by their quality and not by the needs of some non-free apps or
    > what vendors did.
    >
    > Either my memory is wrong, or these times are gone now...

    I don't see that "quality" and "what vendors did" are mutually
    exclusive. What I don't see is why you think that having a capability
    control this is a bad thing. It would seem to be exactly the type of
    thing capabilities address, giving a selected bit of permission to a
    trusted application. 

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