Re: why use ACPI (Re: 2.6.10-rc2 doesn't boot (if no floppy device))

From: Adrian Bunk (bunk_at_stusta.de)
Date: 11/23/04

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    Date:	Tue, 23 Nov 2004 02:37:20 +0100
    To: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
    
    

    On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 08:07:36PM -0500, Len Brown wrote:
    > On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 19:46, Adrian Bunk wrote:
    >
    > > Not needed "pressing the power button when you halt the system" is the
    > > "killer application" for using ACPI for me...
    >
    > Yes, thats certainly one that people notice right away. Laptops have
    > had soft poweroff with APM for a while, but desktops and servers never
    > adopted APM, so soft-power-off is generally a new feature with ACPI for
    > them.

    That's wrong.

    My old desktop computer (with a VIA MVP3 chipset and an AMD K6 cpu)
    I bought in 1998 did power off fine under Linux using APM.

    > Enabling IOAPIC is one that a lot of people like, because it results in
    > less interrupt sharing and better performance than PIC mode. But if you
    > don't load your system much you may not notice any difference.

    I saw

      kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 00(02)
    ...
      kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 02(02)

    on my computer and decided disabling APIC was the easiest way to solve
    them...

    > Next people tend to notice fan speed, because they can hear it.
    > If you load processor and thermal, you'll probably see some
    > /proc/acpi/thermal/thermal_zone/*/temperature and you'll
    > probably find that it stays lower if you keep processor
    > loaded versus when you do not.

    /proc/acpi/thermal/thermal_zone is empty on my computer.

    > This is usually because of power-saving c-csates in idle,
    > which you can observe in /proc/acpi/processor/*/power
    > and the higher the C-state, the more power you save.

    active state: C1
    default state: C1
    bus master activity: 00000000
    states:
       *C1: promotion[--] demotion[--] latency[000] usage[00000000]
        C2: <not supported>
        C3: <not supported>

    > Also, CPUFREQ usually often on ACPI, and that can save
    > power even when the system is not idle, and this results
    > in lower temperatures and hopefully slower fan speeds.

    My computer has a desktop Athlon...

    > cheers,
    > -Len

    cu
    Adrian

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