Re: Suspend 2 merge

From: Pavel Machek (pavel_at_suse.cz)
Date: 11/29/04

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    Date:	Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:34:37 +0100
    To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
    
    

    Hi!

    > > >>>:> But not everyone who uses 2.6.9 uses swsusp. :>
    > >
    > > and not everyone who downloads suspend2 uses it ;-)
    >
    > Yes... I'd say the relative percentage would be much higher, though.

    Agreed.

    > > > change a parameter or forcing them to do an ls in /dev with obscure
    > > > parameters (to get the major and minor numbers) when they already know
    > > > they want /dev/sda1 isn't user friendly. Obviously user friendliness is
    > >
    > > This can easily be done by a userspace helper. You do use the
    > > (userspace) X server to display your GUI, don't you?
    >
    > No. Not at all. All of userspace is well and truly wedged in a block of
    > ice by then.

    I think that was not what Stefan wanted to say.

    > Regarding acceptance, there's no point in getting it accepted into the
    > kernel if we end up with something that's user-unfriendly. I think it
    > will help a lot if we agree that suspend does need to blur the lines
    > between kernel and userspace a little, in the interests of providing
    > software that is superior.

    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. I do not think suspend
    is special enough to blur the lines...
                                                                    Pavel

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