Re: [PATCH 2/2] suspend: Cleanup calling of power off methods.

From: Pierre Ossman (drzeus-list_at_drzeus.cx)
Date: 09/22/05

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    Date:	Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:54:58 +0200
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>

    Eric W. Biederman wrote:

    >But the definition of a maintainer is whoever takes responsibility for
    >part X. The are many pieces of the kernel that don't easily break
    >up into the taxonomy of subsystem and driver. There are many people
    >to reluctantly take responsibility because there is no one else,
    >and so aren't even mentioned in MAINTAINERS much less the rest of it.
    >
    >
    >

    Setting up an account for a mailing list and linking unmaintained parts
    to it would be a solution to that. Either set up a specific list for
    this or use when of the current ones (like LKML). The big problem I see
    at the moment is that not all parts of the kernel are represented in the
    bugzilla.

    >One problem I have with a system like bugzilla is that frequently bug
    >reports are not complete, and bugzilla sets the expectation that
    >once you file a bug the reporters part is complete. Frequently it takes
    >several round trips via email to even understand the bug that is being
    >reported.
    >
    >

    I agree that most bug reports are incomplete. But I still think that a
    bugzilla is the way to go. We need to educate the users in filing bug
    reports no matter which forum is used. Russell's point about having a
    wizard would probably help a lot. A bugzilla also gives the option of
    marking bugs with NEEDINFO, INVALID and similar, clearly expressing to
    the user how the maintainer sees this bug.

    >So either we need a two level bug tracking system where there
    >is a place to capture bugs that users see, and a place to track
    >bugs that developers understand. Or we need something that is
    >much more interactive than bugzilla.
    >
    >
    >

    I think that the categories NEW/ASSIGNED/CONFIRMED suffices. Although
    discussions on mailing lists are more natural for the people here I
    don't agree that bugzilla is less interactive than lists.

    Rgds
    Pierre

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