Re: large files unnecessary trashing filesystem cache?

From: Badari Pulavarty (pbadari_at_gmail.com)
Date: 10/18/05

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    To: Guido Fiala <gfiala@s.netic.de>
    Date:	Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:48:04 -0700
    
    

    On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 22:01 +0200, Guido Fiala wrote:
    > (please note, i'am not subscribed to the list, please CC me on reply)
    >
    > Story:
    > Once in while we have a discussion at the vdr (video disk recorder) mailing
    > list about very large files trashing the filesystems memory cache leading to
    > unnecessary delays accessing directory contents no longer cached.
    >
    > This program and certainly all applications that deal with very large files
    > only read once (much larger than usual memory) - it happens that all other
    > cached blocks of the filessystem are removed from memory solely to keep as
    > much as possible of that file in memory, which seems to be a bad strategy in
    > most situations.
    >
    > Of course one could always implement f_advise-calls in all applications, but i
    > suggest a discussion if a maximum (configurable) in-memory-cache on a
    > per-file base should be implemented in linux/mm or where this belongs.
    >
    > My guess was, it has something to do with mm/readahead.c, a test limiting the
    > result of the function "max_sane_readahead(...) to 8 MBytes as a quick and
    > dirty test did not solve the issue, but i might have done something wrong.
    >
    > I've searched the archive but could not find a previous discussion - is this a
    > new idea?
    >
    > It would be interesting to discuss if and when this proposed feature could
    > lead to better performance or has any unwanted side effects.
    >
    > Thanks for ideas on that issue.

    Is there a reason why those applications couldn't use O_DIRECT ?

    Thanks,
    Badari

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