Re: Linux 2.6.21

On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 01:33:16PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:


On Sun, 29 Apr 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:

The kernel Bugzilla currently contains 1600 open bugs.

Adrian, why do you keep harping on this, and ignoring reality?

Kernel bugzilla has 1600 open bugs BECAUSE IT SUCKS.

OK, how do you suggest to track bugs in a way that doesn't suck?

Bug reports to linux-kernel have the big problem that they are lost if
no developer immediately picks them up.

How many of those are interesting and valid? How many of them are
relevant? How many of them are duplicates?

You don't know. Nobody does. So why do you bother reporting that number?

What I do know is that the majority of them has never been proper
debugged by a kernel developer knowing the subsystem in question.

That number is exactly as relevant as the number of dog-hairs on our couch
("in the millions"). An impressively large number, definitely uncountable,
and definitely also not relevant to anythign at all. Not at all unlike
that "1600 open bugs" number that you bring up.

Do you think the number of dog-hairs on our couch is an argument for or
against people trying to track regressions? If not, why do you keep
bringing up bugzilla?

I tracked 2.6.21-rc regressions, and I do not scale for higher numbers
of bugs. When I had to track 36 known regressions it was a real
nightmare.

Bugzilla tracks regressions and scales for higher numbers of bugs.

Let me ask you two questions:
- Do you think regression tracking makes any sense at all?
- If yes, which scalable way of regression tracking would in your
opinion not suck?

Linus

cu
Adrian

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