Re: SSH Auth Failure?

From: Bret Hughes (bhughes_at_elevating.com)
Date: 08/08/03

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    Date: 07 Aug 2003 21:09:45 -0500
    
    

    On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 06:54, Michael Schwendt wrote:
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    > On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 22:22:16 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
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    > > While doing updates on my servers, I came across this one and I'm
    > > baffled. I always ssh into my primary server and then ssh to the
    > > others. I have them all setup to use keys, and normally it just logs in
    > > and records this in syslog. However, after rpm updated
    > > openssh/openssh-clients/openssh-server to 3.1p1-8 tonight, I'm noticing
    > > something odd. When I log in, I see this in the log file:
    > >
    > > PAM-warn[1306]: service: sshd [on terminal: NODEVssh]
    > > PAM-warn[1306]: user: (uid=0) -> root [remote: ?nobody@intra.pcraft.com]
    > > sshd(pam_unix)[1306]: authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0
    > > tty=NODEVssh ruser= rhost=intra.pcraft.com user=root
    > > sshd(pam_unix)[1306]: session opened for user root by (uid=0)
    > >
    > > Notice how pam now says it failed authentication, yet it logged me
    > > in. Um, what's going on?
    >
    > See clarifying comment at end of
    > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=101157
    >

    I assume that you are referring to:
    <snip from bug comments>

    If the only solution to the information leak is to have this delay, then
    so be
    it. But it seems like this should definitely be a configuration option
    for
    those of us who aren't worried about this particular attack (the delay
    is very
    annoying). But the bogus authentication failure message is wrong in
    either
    case. As others have said, the cure is definitely worse than the
    disease.

    </snip from bug comments>

    The irritating thing is that this is CLOSED with a resolution of NOTABUG

    I just did this upgrade today on a couple of my internal machines and
    find this very irritating. As several commenters have done, you can
    back it out but what happens when there is a real bug that gets fixed
    later.

    Three are indeed two issues as the comments indicate.

    1. It takes much longer to login I use dsa type 2 keys and it usually
    takes less than a second to get in now it takes closer to three seconds

    2. erroneous log messages

    I understand a delay in th failing but for an authenticated login? And
    I am sorry, bogus log messages are not ok. I am about to try the
    openssh.org rpm since I don't see any discussion about this on the
    openssh developer or bug list. I am thinking this is a bad backport.

    Bret

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