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From: Thomas Fortner (thomas.fortner_at_sbcglobal.net)
Date: 09/03/03

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Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 11:33:17 -0500

    I've seen the 3c90x series NIC do this before. Try another card.

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    > 1. NIC comes up with reboot, but something wrong (Steve Buehler)
    > 2. Re: up2date SSL error? (Leonard Miller)
    > 3. Re: up2date SSL error? (Steve Buehler)
    > 4. /boot won't automaount (Thomas Fortner)
    > 5. RedHat 7.3 on Compaq proliant 1600 freezes (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Enroth_Bj=F6rn?=)
    > 6. Re: diagnosing system crash (Karasik, Vitaly)
    > 7. Port Forward 1 Port (James Pifer)
    > 8. Re: LPIC passing percentage? (Dave Ihnat)
    > 9. ZIP drive (Sasa Stupar)
    > 10. problems resolving (was: postfix problems) (Martin Marques)
    > 11. Re: tool to see which app' is using what percentage of bandwidth (Benjamin J. Weiss)
    > 12. How do I change my e-mail address? (Khademul Islam)
    > 13. Re: Port Forward 1 Port (Joe Polk)
    > 14. Two questions (Sasa Stupar)
    > 15. Re: ZIP drive (Alfredo Cole)
    > 16. SpamAssassin for server-wide (Joe Polk)
    > 17. Re: How do I change my e-mail address? (Michael Schwendt)
    > 18. Re: postfix problems (Benjamin J. Weiss)
    > 19. Re: Port Forward 1 Port (James Pifer)
    > 20. Re: diagnosing system crash (Benjamin J. Weiss)
    > 21. Re: How do I change my e-mail address? (Ed Wilts)
    > 22. Re: up2date SSL error? (Wartnick, James)
    > 23. Re: (no subject) (d2ci1fj@hotmail.com)
    > 24. putting a title on the xterm window (Marvin Blackburn)
    > 25. Re: putting a title on the xterm window (Vidiot)
    > 26. Re: postfix problems (Jason Dixon)
    > 27. Install a RPM in a different location (Distribution Lists)
    > 28. Re: Port Forward 1 Port (Joe Polk)
    > 29. RE: The Steps to upgrade kernel (Mohan, Raj)
    > 30. Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...) (Richard Crawford)
    > 31. RE: Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...) (Mark Haney)
    > 32. Re: Install a RPM in a different location (Ed Wilts)
    > 33. PostgreSQL or MySQL on RedHat (Nick Marsh)
    > 34. Re: Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...) (Ed Wilts)
    > 35. Re: PostgreSQL or MySQL on RedHat (Jason Dixon)
    > 36. Re: PostgreSQL or MySQL on RedHat (Ed Wilts)
    > 37. Re: Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...) (Richard Crawford)
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    > Message: 1
    > Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 07:19:05 -0500
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > From: Steve Buehler <steve@ibapp.com>
    > Subject: NIC comes up with reboot, but something wrong
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > I have a strange problem here that I have not seen before. When I reboot
    > my server, my nic card is up and running when I look at an ifconfig. I can
    > ping it from anyplace else and get a response. But I have to do this after
    > booting:
    > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifdown eth0
    > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup eth0
    >
    > If I don't do this, then I can't reach any of my ports, 25, 21, 80,
    > etc..... I am sure that I can put in another script to run at boot time to
    > bring it back down and up again, but I would rather find the problem and
    > fix it. The server is a new development server, so I can reinstall, but if
    > it happens again later when I really need it to be up, then I won't have
    > the option of reinstalling it. I have tried turning off the firewall and
    > rebooting, but still have the same problem. So I don't "think" that it has
    > anything to do with the firewall. Has anybody else seen this? Can anybody
    > lead me in the right direction on fixing this problem? The NIC card is a
    > standard 3COM (3c905c).
    >
    > Thanks
    > Steve
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 2
    > Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 07:21:44 -0500
    > From: "Leonard Miller" <Leonard_Miller@udlp.com>
    > To: <hrtlist@cpia.jhu.edu>, <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Re: up2date SSL error?
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Yes it has. You need to either download the new up2date
    > or the new certificate.
    >
    > I don't have the links, but you could probably find them
    >
    > Leonard
    >
    >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > Has this been fixed yet?
    > I still have the problem, I just want to make sure it isn't a problem
    > with my setup.
    > Any idea when it will be fixed?
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > Hugh
    > mailto: hrtlist@cpia.jhu.edu
    >
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    > Message: 3
    > Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 07:26:58 -0500
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com, Hugh Taylor <hrtlist@cpia.jhu.edu>
    > From: Steve Buehler <steve@ibapp.com>
    > Subject: Re: up2date SSL error?
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > If this just started happening since Aug 28th, then it is
    > something that RedHat did. Have you downloaded the new up2date from redhat
    > as directed to on your http://rhn.redhat.com home page? They made some
    > changes to the up2date program and you should have been sent an email by
    > them telling you to download the new up2date rpm manually and install
    > it. If you are running Gnome, you will also need to download the
    > up2date-gnome rpm too. Check the directions to find out the exact file
    > names and where to get them.
    > The following is what http://rhn.redhat.com says:
    > ----------------------------
    >
    > SSL Connection Errors
    >
    > On August 28th, the SSL certificates used by up2date, rhn_register, and the
    > RHN applet expired. Systems attempting to connect to RHN using an older
    > certificate will receive 'certificate verify failed' errors. Please see the
    > following instructions to download the latest versions of up2date and
    > rhn_register.
    > -----------------------------
    >
    > hmmmm. After being on this list for a long time, I may have finally been
    > able to help someone after all of the help that I have received from kind
    > list users in the past.
    >
    > Problem solved?
    > Steve
    >
    > At 08:08 AM 9/3/2003 -0400, Hugh Taylor wrote:
    > >Johnie Stafford wrote:
    > >
    > >> From rhn.redhat.com:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>We are currently experiencing ssl problems with up2date and the RHN
    > >>applet. We are aware of the issue and working to restore service as soon
    > >>as possible. The RHN website is currently available, but actions
    > >>scheduled for systems will not take effect until service is restored. We
    > >>apologize for any inconvenience, and thank you for your patience.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 20:05, Leonard Miller wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>Not just you. I'm getting the same thing. Worked ok with the last
    > >>>update of iptables and pam_smb, but now it doesn't.
    > >>>
    > >>>Did you find anything?
    > >>>
    > >>>Leonard
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>>>>edward@tripled.iinet.net.au 08/28/03 20:28 PM >>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>What the?
    > >>>
    > >>>There was an SSL error: [('SSL routines', 'SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE',
    > >>>
    > >>>'certificate verify failed')]
    > >>>A common cause of this error is the system time being incorrect. Verify
    > >>>that the time on this system is correct.
    > >>>
    > >>>Yes, the system time (using 'date' command) shows the time as being
    > >>>correct (updated automatically midnight every day).
    > >>>
    > >>>Side note: I've ignored it till now, but the kernel source won't
    > >>>download either over the last 3 times I've run up2date with a signature
    > >>>error. No other packages have this problem.
    > >>>
    > >>>Just me? (That would be typical)
    > >>>
    > >>>Regards,
    > >>>Ed.
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >Has this been fixed yet?
    > >I still have the problem, I just want to make sure it isn't a problem with
    > >my setup.
    > >Any idea when it will be fixed?
    > >
    > >
    > >--
    > >
    > >Hugh
    > >mailto: hrtlist@cpia.jhu.edu
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    > Message: 4
    > Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 07:40:01 -0500
    > From: Thomas Fortner <thomas.fortner@sbcglobal.net>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: /boot won't automaount
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hi folks:
    > I switched from a single hard drive to a hardware RAID configuration on
    > ministry1.prodigal.local, listed on "My Systems" on RHN. When I made this
    > change, it changed my boot drive from /dev/hda3 to /dev/hdg3. I went
    > through the configuration files to change the references for hd(0,0). I
    > found some of the configuration files such as /etc/grub.conf, /etc/fstab
    > and /boot/grub/device.map. However, I still seem to be missing one
    > somewhere.
    >
    > The system will boot fine, but to mount /boot before daemons load I must
    > boot it in single user mode, mount /boot manually (mount /dev/hdg1
    > /boot), then init to level 5. Swap and / mount properly and all the
    > daemons run without errors if I boot in this three step procedure. In
    > fact, I am writing this assistance request from ministry1. Everything is
    > stable once I get /boot manually mounted.
    >
    > Can you tell me where to look? I'm sure I missed a configuration file for
    > /boot somewhere, but I can't find it.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Tom Fortner
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    > Tom
    >
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    > Burleson, Texas
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    >
    > Message: 5
    > Subject: RedHat 7.3 on Compaq proliant 1600 freezes
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 14:42:44 +0200
    > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Enroth_Bj=F6rn?= <Bjorn.Enroth@dotcom.se>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hi all,
    >
    > I've installed redhat 7.3 on a cpq proliant 1600. I have 640MB RAM and a 9GB scsi hdd.
    > My problem is that the server freezes intermittent. The server answers on ping, but nothing else. The only way to get it to run again is to power off/on. The dmesg does not give any information of value either. Anyone who have a clue of what this is?
    >
    > Thanks
    > /Bjorn
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 6
    > Subject: Re: diagnosing system crash
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 15:50:02 +0300
    > From: "Karasik, Vitaly" <vkarasik@ndsisrael.com>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > 1) upgrade to latest RH kernel
    >
    > 2) if you have spare RAM, try to replace RAM in this machine
    >
    > 3) read http://linux.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/1319 (Linux System Failure Post-Mortem)
    >
    > Regards,
    > Vitaly
    >
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    > >
    > > Message: 14
    > > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:43:26 -0500 (GMT)
    > > From: mukherjee_amit@vsnl.net
    > > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > > Subject: diagnosing system crash
    > > Cc:
    > > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > >
    > > Hi,
    > > I have just installed RH9. I find that the machine crashes
    > > all of a sudden or just freezes. Since it is not a graceful
    > > shutdown, the filesystems don't get synced and this causes a
    > > lot of grief when I boot the system again. Are there any logs
    > > that I can check which will give me some insight into these
    > > unexpected crashes. Does anyone know if there are some known
    > > issues with 2.4.20-8 kernel which might cause this.
    > >
    > > Regards
    > > Amit
    > >
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    > Message: 7
    > Subject: Port Forward 1 Port
    > From: James Pifer <jamesredhatlist@obrien-pifer.com>
    > To: RedHat List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Date: 03 Sep 2003 09:35:36 -0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > I have been googling because I know this has been talked about a lot,
    > but what I've found is overkill for what I need (I think).
    >
    > I have a RH8 machine on a private net that has iptables but everything
    > is set to ACCEPT. I need to forward port 162 to another machine. Is
    > there an easy way to do this with iptables without having a full fledged
    > firewall running with a bunch of rules?
    >
    > Maybe there's a better way of doing? I'm open to suggestions.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > James
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 8
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:37:36 -0500
    > From: Dave Ihnat <ignatz@dminet.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: LPIC passing percentage?
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 06:11:51AM -0400, Kevin MacNeil wrote:
    > > I read somewhere that it was around 42%, so I feel fortunate that I
    > > passed. It's a surprisingly hard (but fair) exam for an entry level
    > > certification.
    >
    > Hmm...interesting. I'm curious what someone with a background like mine
    > would do without any special preparation--except for 25 years of Unix
    > and almost 10 years of Linux experience as both a developer and an admin.
    > --
    > Dave Ihnat
    > ignatz@dminet.com
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 9
    > Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 15:37:06 +0200
    > From: Sasa Stupar <sasa@stupar.homelinux.net>
    > To: redhat-list <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: ZIP drive
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > HI!
    >
    > How do I access to the IOMEGA ZIP drive which is connected to the
    > parallel port on RH8?
    >
    > Sasa
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 10
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:34:59 -0300 (ART)
    > From: Martin Marques <martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: problems resolving (was: postfix problems)
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Check
    > /etc/resolv.conf
    > /etc/nsswitch.conf
    >
    > Check out that you are not doning nis lookups or something like that.
    > The problem is related with name resolution.
    >
    > On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Marc Adler wrote:
    >
    > > I switched my mail transfer agent to postfix from sendmail about a month
    > > ago and it worked just fine for a while, until I set up an nfs server
    > > and then tried to set up a samba server (that's still underway). Now,
    > > when I start the computer, it stops for around 30 seconds when trying to
    > > start up postfix (but nevertheless succeeds), and when I shut down the
    > > computer, it fails when trying to stop postfix. It also fails at cups,
    > > although this might have to do with the nfs settings - I don't know. The
    > > biggest problem, however, and which I think is possibly related, is that
    > > whenever I use the internet now, it takes between five and fifteen
    > > seconds to resolve addresses. This is true whether I use mozilla or
    > > konqueror. (This delay is even present when I use swat!) Both of these
    > > problems (postfix and internet delays) cropped up at the same time
    > > around the time I set up the nfs server, so I'm wondering if they aren't
    > > related somehow. DNS settings? I'm too newbie to figure it out on my
    > > own.
    > >
    > > If anyone is willing to give this problem a shot, let me know what
    > > configuration files or logs you need to see what's going on and I'll
    > > post them.
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance,
    > > --
    > > Marc Adler
    > >
    > >
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    > Message: 11
    > From: "Benjamin J. Weiss" <benjamin@weiss.name>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Re: tool to see which app' is using what percentage of bandwidth
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:45:47 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > Some process is utilizing 30% of the my NIC's bandwidth. Any tool I can
    > use
    > > to check which application or process is using the bandwidth?
    > >
    > > Thank you in advance.
    > >
    > > James
    >
    > I haven't tried it, but I've heard good things about ntop:
    >
    > http://www.ntop.org/ntop.html
    >
    > Ben
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 12
    > Subject: How do I change my e-mail address?
    > To: "redhat-list@redhat.com" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > From: Khademul Islam <khademul@us.ibm.com>
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:49:04 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Does anyone knows how I can change the e-mail address in the redhat mailing
    > list.
    >
    > Thanks
    > ..................................................
    > Khademul Islam ( Dali )
    > Software Engineer -- Integrated Supply Chain
    > Customer Solution Center
    > IBM Rochester
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    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 13
    > From: "Joe Polk" <listuser@javelinux.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Port Forward 1 Port
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:56:01 -0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Try http://www.boutell.com/rinetd/
    >
    > <<JAV>>
    >
    > ---------- Original Message -----------
    > From: James Pifer <jamesredhatlist@obrien-pifer.com>
    > To: RedHat List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Sent: 03 Sep 2003 09:35:36 -0400
    > Subject: Port Forward 1 Port
    >
    > > I have been googling because I know this has been talked about a lot,
    > > but what I've found is overkill for what I need (I think).
    > >
    > > I have a RH8 machine on a private net that has iptables but
    > > everything is set to ACCEPT. I need to forward port 162 to another
    > > machine. Is there an easy way to do this with iptables without
    > > having a full fledged firewall running with a bunch of rules?
    > >
    > > Maybe there's a better way of doing? I'm open to suggestions.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > James
    > >
    > > --
    > > redhat-list mailing list
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    > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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    >
    >
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    > Message: 14
    > Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 15:57:46 +0200
    > From: Sasa Stupar <sasa@stupar.homelinux.net>
    > To: redhat-list <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Two questions
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > I am on RH8:
    > I want to access to my second HDD but there is windowsxp installed. How
    > do I mount it?
    > How do I make a floppy bootdisk ?
    >
    > Sasa
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 15
    > From: Alfredo Cole <alfredo@clshonduras.com>
    > Organization: ACyC
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: ZIP drive
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:05:30 -0600
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > El Miércoles, 3 de Septiembre de 2003 07:37, Sasa Stupar escribió:
    > > HI!
    > >
    > > How do I access to the IOMEGA ZIP drive which is connected to the
    > > parallel port on RH8?
    > >
    > > Sasa
    >
    > I think it's:
    >
    > modeprobe imm
    > mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
    >
    > Regards.
    >
    > --
    > Alfredo J. Cole
    > http://www.acyc.com
    > http://www.clshonduras.com
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 16
    > From: "Joe Polk" <listuser@javelinux.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > CC: valhalla-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: SpamAssassin for server-wide
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:08:58 -0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > I would like to setup SA to scan server-wide. I have the rpm's installed but
    > I'm not sure of the best way to set it up. Will I need SpamAss::Milter to do
    > this? Should I setup a folder full of spam for it to learn from? The
    > documentation isn't very clear on this. I would assume it will scan
    > everything in /var/mail but how do I go about doing this?
    >
    > <<JAV>>
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 17
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 16:13:41 +0200
    > From: Michael Schwendt <ms-nospam-0306@arcor.de>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: How do I change my e-mail address?
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
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    > On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:49:04 -0500, Khademul Islam wrote:
    >
    > > Does anyone knows how I can change the e-mail address in the redhat mailing
    > > list.
    >
    > Spend some time on the page which is listed at the bottom of almost
    > every message. Check out all the options, especially those which you
    > get when you log in at the bottom of the page:
    >
    > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
    >
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    > Message: 18
    > From: "Benjamin J. Weiss" <benjamin@weiss.name>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Re: postfix problems
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:26:02 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > > However, the local caching nameserver could be an appropriate solution
    > > iff the ISP is continuously negligent of DNS service problems and Marc
    > > invests the time to learn how to properly secure such a service.
    >
    > As a person who is standing up a linux DNS (yes, it's necessary), I just
    > want to double check: The only three ways that *I* know of to secure DNS is
    > (1) to ensure that I'm running the latest version from RedHat via up2date,
    > (2) to have it run as the 'named' user instead of as root, and (3) to chroot
    > jail the process.
    >
    > Am I missing anything here?
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > Ben
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 19
    > Subject: Re: Port Forward 1 Port
    > From: James Pifer <jamesredhatlist@obrien-pifer.com>
    > To: RedHat List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Date: 03 Sep 2003 10:28:01 -0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Very cool program, but I need to forward UDP port 162 (SNMP traps).
    > Sorry, I should have been more specific.
    >
    > Any other suggestions? Am I back to iptables? Can anyone assist with a
    > simple forwarding rule without going nuts with iptables?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > James
    >
    > On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 09:56, Joe Polk wrote:
    > > Try http://www.boutell.com/rinetd/
    > >
    > > <<JAV>>
    > >
    > > ---------- Original Message -----------
    > > From: James Pifer <jamesredhatlist@obrien-pifer.com>
    > > To: RedHat List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > > Sent: 03 Sep 2003 09:35:36 -0400
    > > Subject: Port Forward 1 Port
    > >
    > > > I have been googling because I know this has been talked about a lot,
    > > > but what I've found is overkill for what I need (I think).
    > > >
    > > > I have a RH8 machine on a private net that has iptables but
    > > > everything is set to ACCEPT. I need to forward port 162 to another
    > > > machine. Is there an easy way to do this with iptables without
    > > > having a full fledged firewall running with a bunch of rules?
    > > >
    > > > Maybe there's a better way of doing? I'm open to suggestions.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks,
    > > > James
    > > >
    > > > --
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    > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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    > >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 20
    > From: "Benjamin J. Weiss" <benjamin@weiss.name>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Re: diagnosing system crash
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:38:14 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > > Hi,
    > > I have just installed RH9. I find that the machine crashes all of a
    > sudden or just freezes. Since it is not a graceful shutdown, the filesystems
    > don't get synced and this causes a lot of grief when I boot the system
    > again. Are there any logs that I can check which will give me some insight
    > into these unexpected crashes. Does anyone know if there are some known
    > issues with 2.4.20-8 kernel which might cause this.
    > >
    > I don't know anything about the kernel issues, but bad memory can be a
    > culprit in these situations. Try downloading the CD iso at:
    > http://www.memtest86.com, burn it to a CD, then boot from the CD and run the
    > full test several times. If you run the full suite (not just the first 7
    > default tests) and run it for at least three passes, you're looking at 24
    > hours, but it will definitely tell you if there are RAM issues.
    >
    > Ben
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 21
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:29:20 -0500
    > From: Ed Wilts <ewilts@ewilts.org>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: How do I change my e-mail address?
    > Organization: (ewilts)
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 08:49:04AM -0500, Khademul Islam wrote:
    > > Does anyone knows how I can change the e-mail address in the redhat mailing
    > > list.
    >
    > If it was me, I'd unsubscribe the old address as step 1 and subscribe
    > the new address as step 2.
    >
    > --
    > Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
    > mailto:ewilts@ewilts.org
    > Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 22
    > Subject: Re: up2date SSL error?
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:40:02 -0500
    > From: "Wartnick, James" <James.Wartnick@bestbuy.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > If you go to the RH site and MANUALLY download the latest "New up2date with updated SSL
    > certificate authority file" patch (You can't use up2date to do this due to the SSL error),
    > the problem should be resolved. I did this yesterday and everything now downloads fine for
    > me.
    >
    > The patch was posted on 8/29.
    >
    > -Jim Wartnick
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > Message: 51
    > Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 08:08:17 -0400
    > From: Hugh Taylor <hrtlist@cpia.jhu.edu>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: up2date SSL error?
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Johnie Stafford wrote:
    >
    > >>From rhn.redhat.com:
    > >
    > >
    > >We are currently experiencing ssl problems with up2date and the RHN
    > >applet. We are aware of the issue and working to restore service as soon
    > >as possible. The RHN website is currently available, but actions
    > >scheduled for systems will not take effect until service is restored. We
    > >apologize for any inconvenience, and thank you for your patience.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 20:05, Leonard Miller wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>Not just you. I'm getting the same thing. Worked ok with the last
    > >>update of iptables and pam_smb, but now it doesn't.
    > >>
    > >>Did you find anything?
    > >>
    > >>Leonard
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>>>edward@tripled.iinet.net.au 08/28/03 20:28 PM >>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>What the?
    > >>
    > >>There was an SSL error: [('SSL routines', 'SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE',
    > >>
    > >>'certificate verify failed')]
    > >>A common cause of this error is the system time being incorrect. Verify
    > >>that the time on this system is correct.
    > >>
    > >>Yes, the system time (using 'date' command) shows the time as being
    > >>correct (updated automatically midnight every day).
    > >>
    > >>Side note: I've ignored it till now, but the kernel source won't
    > >>download either over the last 3 times I've run up2date with a signature
    > >>error. No other packages have this problem.
    > >>
    > >>Just me? (That would be typical)
    > >>
    > >>Regards,
    > >>Ed.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > Has this been fixed yet?
    > I still have the problem, I just want to make sure it isn't a problem
    > with my setup.
    > Any idea when it will be fixed?
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > Hugh
    > mailto: hrtlist@cpia.jhu.edu
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 23
    > From: <d2ci1fj@hotmail.com>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Re: (no subject)
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:07:08 -0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
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    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "NfoCipher" <nfocipher@chickenware.com>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:12 PM
    > Subject: Re: (no subject)
    >
    >
    > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 15:58, d2ci1fj@hotmail.com wrote:
    > > > I am using a cd and the BIOS settings are right. Is there anyway to fix
    > the
    > > > video problem?
    > >
    > > If it booted off the cd, then it should have no problems finding the cd
    > > drive. Odd.
    > > What kind of video card is in there?
    > > What kind of computer is this? (specs)
    > >
    > > --
    > > NfoCipher <nfocipher@chickenware.com>
    > > ChickenWare, LLC
    > > Co-lo or dedicated Linux box as low as $35/month - www.SpeedWorks.com
    > >
    > >
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    > > unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe
    > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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    > The video card is Radeon 9800 128mb. The computer has a D875PBZ =
    > motherboard. It found the cd, the problem is that it is not recognizing =
    > what kind of drive the cdrom is. It only gives me the option of scsi. =
    > After that there is a list of drivers that I am suppose to install. I do =
    > not what they are for, they might be motherboard drivers. I have to =
    > reboot because I don't know what these drivers are for and they do not =
    > have any matching any of my hardware.
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    > Message: 24
    > Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 11:11:26 -0400
    > From: Marvin Blackburn <mblackburn@glenraven.com>
    > Subject: putting a title on the xterm window
    > To: "Red Hat Mailing List (E-mail)" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > What string do i use to put a title in the xterm window from the command
    > line?
    >
    > ------------------
    > Marvin Blackburn
    > Systems Administrator
    > Glen Raven
    > "He's no failure. He's not dead yet" --William Lloyd George
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 25
    > From: Vidiot <brown@mrvideo.vidiot.com>
    > Subject: Re: putting a title on the xterm window
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:28:32 -0500 (CDT)
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > >What string do i use to put a title in the xterm window from the command
    > >line?
    > >Marvin Blackburn
    >
    > I have the following configured for zsh:
    >
    > if [[ xterm == $TERM || vt102 == $TERM ]]
    > then chpwd() echo -n "^[]2;${PWD}^G"
    > fi
    > if [[ xterm == $TERM || vt102 == $TERM ]]
    > then chpwd
    > fi
    >
    >
    > The ^[ and ^G are real control characters, not ^ and [ or G.
    >
    > MB
    > --
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    >
    > Message: 26
    > Subject: Re: postfix problems
    > From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
    > To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
    > Date: 03 Sep 2003 11:32:54 -0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 10:26, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
    > > > However, the local caching nameserver could be an appropriate solution
    > > > iff the ISP is continuously negligent of DNS service problems and Marc
    > > > invests the time to learn how to properly secure such a service.
    > >
    > > As a person who is standing up a linux DNS (yes, it's necessary), I just
    > > want to double check: The only three ways that *I* know of to secure DNS is
    > > (1) to ensure that I'm running the latest version from RedHat via up2date,
    > > (2) to have it run as the 'named' user instead of as root, and (3) to chroot
    > > jail the process.
    > >
    > > Am I missing anything here?
    >
    > (4) Don't run Bind DNS. djbdns is a very secure alternative from D.J.
    > Bernstein, the same guy that brought us qmail.
    > (5) Other OS-tightening methods that aren't DNS-specific and too
    > numerous to mention here.
    >
    > --
    > Jason Dixon, RHCE
    > DixonGroup Consulting
    > http://www.dixongroup.net
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 27
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:34:40 -0500 (CDT)
    > Subject: Install a RPM in a different location
    > From: "Distribution Lists" <dist-lists@e-securenetworks.net>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Is there a easy way to install a RPM in a definable location, ie
    > /usr/local rather than /usr
    >
    > I read the maxrpm documentation...surely it must be easier than that
    >
    > Regards
    >
    >
    > --
    > http://www.seekitzone.com
    > http://www.e-securenetworks.net
    > http://www.shopper-holic.com
    > http://www.planet247.net
    > http://www.auction-holic.com
    >
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    >
    > Message: 28
    > From: "Joe Polk" <listuser@javelinux.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Port Forward 1 Port
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:36:25 -0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Probably so. Or buy a cheap NAT Router and do it...but then you have NAT
    > interference being in a simple LAN and may have to define static routes, but
    > the interface is simple enough (Web).
    >
    > <<JAV>>
    >
    > ---------- Original Message -----------
    > From: James Pifer <jamesredhatlist@obrien-pifer.com>
    > To: RedHat List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Sent: 03 Sep 2003 10:28:01 -0400
    > Subject: Re: Port Forward 1 Port
    >
    > > Very cool program, but I need to forward UDP port 162 (SNMP traps).
    > > Sorry, I should have been more specific.
    > >
    > > Any other suggestions? Am I back to iptables? Can anyone assist with
    > > a simple forwarding rule without going nuts with iptables?
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > James
    > >
    > > On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 09:56, Joe Polk wrote:
    > > > Try http://www.boutell.com/rinetd/
    > > >
    > > > <<JAV>>
    > > >
    > > > ---------- Original Message -----------
    > > > From: James Pifer <jamesredhatlist@obrien-pifer.com>
    > > > To: RedHat List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > > > Sent: 03 Sep 2003 09:35:36 -0400
    > > > Subject: Port Forward 1 Port
    > > >
    > > > > I have been googling because I know this has been talked about a lot,
    > > > > but what I've found is overkill for what I need (I think).
    > > > >
    > > > > I have a RH8 machine on a private net that has iptables but
    > > > > everything is set to ACCEPT. I need to forward port 162 to another
    > > > > machine. Is there an easy way to do this with iptables without
    > > > > having a full fledged firewall running with a bunch of rules?
    > > > >
    > > > > Maybe there's a better way of doing? I'm open to suggestions.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks,
    > > > > James
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > redhat-list mailing list
    > > > > unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe
    > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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    > > >
    > >
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    >
    > Message: 29
    > From: "Mohan, Raj" <Mohan@softlink.ch>
    > To: "'redhat-list@redhat.com'" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: RE: The Steps to upgrade kernel
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 17:31:01 +0200
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hi Gunawan,
    >
    > Please read the "The Offical Red Hat Linux Reference Guide". This document
    > is available in www.redhat.com/support/manuals. It gives an excellent
    > description about all the kernel build steps that you want to know about.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Otto Haliburton [mailto:ottohaliburton@comcast.net]
    > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 4:02 AM
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: RE: The Steps to upgrade kernel
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: redhat-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:redhat-list-
    > > admin@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Gunawan
    > > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 8:14 PM
    > > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > > Subject: The Steps to upgrade kernel
    > >
    > > Hi,
    > > Thank you for all of your reply regarding the upgrade kernel. I still
    > > need
    > > some help.
    > >
    > > 1. Could you explain to me what is the purpose of these steps each?
    > > 1. make clean; make mrproper
    > deletes old objects and prepares the build
    > > 2. make xconfig or make menuconfig (I prefer the latter)
    > builds the X configuration menu or the text menu (you will prefer the
    > xconfig
    > > 3. make dep
    > resolves the dependencies
    > > 4. nohup make bzImage
    > builds the kernel
    > > 5. make modules
    > makes the modules for the drivers etc...
    > > 6. make modules_install
    > installs the modules in the proper locations
    > > 7. make install
    > installs the kernel you build in step 4.
    > >
    > > 2. I have download 'linux-2.4.22.tar.bz2' to upgrade the kernel.
    > > What should I do now? I am new in red hat/linux and almost know
    > > nothing.
    > >
    > > TIA,
    > > Gunawan
    > >
    > >
    > >
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    >
    > Message: 30
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:53:49 -0700 (PDT)
    > Subject: Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...)
    > From: "Richard Crawford" <rscrawford@mossroot.com>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    >
    > I have a RH8.0 server running at home which pulls mail in from our remote
    > mail server and then distributes it for me and my wife between our various
    > accounts. Now, in addition to my desktop computer which runs Linux, I
    > also have my WinXP laptop which runs Outlook 2000 (currently this computer
    > runs that because I cannot make my Palm Tungsten talk happily to my
    > desktop computer, and because I have not been able to make Debian run well
    > on that laptop -- still soliciting suggestions on both those issues, by
    > the way).
    >
    > While at work, I check my personal e-mail by logging in to my server and
    > using SquirrelMail. But recently I've discovered that even when I shut
    > down Outlook on my XP laptop, there are still Outlook processes running,
    > even if I kill them with Task Manager. As a result, when I log in to SM,
    > messages are marked as read even when I haven't read them though SM
    > (because Outlook on my laptop has checked my mail -- even when I don't
    > want it to).
    >
    > This is just one more reason why I hate MS in general and Outlook in
    > particular. I'd love to find a way to run Ximian Evolution on my Windows
    > laptop, but until then is anyone aware of a way to kill Outlook processes
    > on my Windows computer once and for all so that it actually shuts all the
    > way down when I tell it to? Just assume that I have processes running on
    > my laptop which makes it inconvenient to shut it down all the way. ;-)
    >
    >
    > Sliante,
    > Richard S. Crawford
    >
    > http://www.mossroot.com
    > AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Y!: rscrawford
    > MSN: underpope@hotmail.com
    > Howard Dean for America: http://www.deanforamerica.com
    > "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is
    > invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupéry
    >
    >
    > Sliante,
    > Richard S. Crawford
    >
    > http://www.mossroot.com
    > AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Y!: rscrawford
    > MSN: underpope@hotmail.com
    > Howard Dean for America: http://www.deanforamerica.com
    > "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is
    > invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupéry
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 31
    > Subject: RE: Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...)
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:48:20 -0400
    > From: "Mark Haney" <mhaney@polk.k12.nc.us>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Richard Crawford wrote:
    > > I have a RH8.0 server running at home which pulls mail in from our
    > > remote mail server and then distributes it for me and my wife between
    > > our various accounts. Now, in addition to my desktop computer which
    > > runs Linux, I also have my WinXP laptop which runs Outlook 2000
    > > (currently this computer runs that because I cannot make my Palm
    > > Tungsten talk happily to my desktop computer, and because I have not
    > > been able to make Debian run well on that laptop -- still soliciting
    > > suggestions on both those issues, by the way).
    > >
    > > While at work, I check my personal e-mail by logging in to my server
    > > and using SquirrelMail. But recently I've discovered that even when
    > > I shut down Outlook on my XP laptop, there are still Outlook
    > > processes running, even if I kill them with Task Manager. As a
    > > result, when I log in to SM, messages are marked as read even when I
    > > haven't read them though SM (because Outlook on my laptop has checked
    > > my mail -- even when I don't want it to).
    > >
    > > This is just one more reason why I hate MS in general and Outlook in
    > > particular. I'd love to find a way to run Ximian Evolution on my
    > > Windows laptop, but until then is anyone aware of a way to kill
    > > Outlook processes on my Windows computer once and for all so that it
    > > actually shuts all the way down when I tell it to? Just assume that
    > > I have processes running on my laptop which makes it inconvenient to
    > > shut it down all the way. ;-)
    > >
    > >
    > > Sliante,
    > > Richard S. Crawford
    > >
    > > http://www.mossroot.com
    > > AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Y!: rscrawford
    > > MSN: underpope@hotmail.com
    > > Howard Dean for America: http://www.deanforamerica.com
    > > "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is
    > > invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupéry
    > >
    > >
    > > Sliante,
    > > Richard S. Crawford
    > >
    > > http://www.mossroot.com
    > > AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Y!: rscrawford
    > > MSN: underpope@hotmail.com
    > > Howard Dean for America: http://www.deanforamerica.com
    > > "It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is
    > > invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupéry
    >
    > Hmm, to be honest, I've had nothing but pain and anguish from Outlook 2k on WinXP. I've had to upgrade every XP box we have here to Office XP just to get Outlook to even work. Is this a reasonable step for you to take?
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 32
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:45:51 -0500
    > From: Ed Wilts <ewilts@ewilts.org>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Install a RPM in a different location
    > Organization: (ewilts)
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 10:34:40AM -0500, Distribution Lists wrote:
    > > Is there a easy way to install a RPM in a definable location, ie
    > > /usr/local rather than /usr
    > >
    > > I read the maxrpm documentation...surely it must be easier than that
    >
    > I'm looking at the new book "Red Hat RPM Guide" from redhat press.
    > Look at the --prefix and --relocate options.
    > e.g.
    > # rpm -U --prefix /new/directory package.rpm
    > # rpm -U --relocate /old/directory=/new/directory package.rpm
    >
    > Not all packages allow relocations.
    >
    > --
    > Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
    > mailto:ewilts@ewilts.org
    > Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 33
    > Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 10:48:16 -0500
    > From: Nick Marsh <nmarsh1@mac.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: PostgreSQL or MySQL on RedHat
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > I have been using MySQL on RedHat for about a year now. My hardcode geek friends keep telling me that PostgreSQL is better. Can anyone offer some insight as to the advantages of using one over the other? Thanks.
    >
    > nick marsh
    > nmarsh1@mac.com
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 34
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:50:50 -0500
    > From: Ed Wilts <ewilts@ewilts.org>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...)
    > Organization: (ewilts)
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 08:53:49AM -0700, Richard Crawford wrote:
    > >
    > > I'd love to find a way to run Ximian Evolution on my Windows
    > > laptop
    >
    > You've got a couple of choices:
    >
    > 1. Run VNC on your Linux and Windows systems. This lets you manage the
    > Linux display on your Windows system.
    >
    > 2. Install an X Server on your Windows system (either commmerical or
    > Cygwin) and then export your Linux display to it. This will let you run
    > just Evolution in a window on your laptop.
    >
    > --
    > Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
    > mailto:ewilts@ewilts.org
    > Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 35
    > Subject: Re: PostgreSQL or MySQL on RedHat
    > From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
    > To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
    > Date: 03 Sep 2003 11:52:07 -0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 11:48, Nick Marsh wrote:
    > > I have been using MySQL on RedHat for about a year now. My hardcode geek friends keep telling me that PostgreSQL is better. Can anyone offer some insight as to the advantages of using one over the other? Thanks.
    >
    > Hi Nick. Please don't be offended, but your question really shouldn't
    > be on this list. Yes, both run on Red Hat, but that's like asking which
    > desktop (Gnome vs. KDE) that people like best. Everyone has their
    > favorite.
    >
    > I will say that PostgreSQL has some very nice features and datatypes
    > that MySQL doesn't yet, but that hasn't kept me from using MySQL on all
    > of my sites. Your choice is completely dependent on what your needs
    > are. Other folks' needs and experiences aren't necessarily the same as
    > yours.
    >
    > Let's hope this thread dies before it gets out of control.
    >
    > --
    > Jason Dixon, RHCE
    > DixonGroup Consulting
    > http://www.dixongroup.net
    >
    >
    >
    > --__--__--
    >
    > Message: 36
    > Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:54:44 -0500
    > From: Ed Wilts <ewilts@ewilts.org>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: PostgreSQL or MySQL on RedHat
    > Organization: (ewilts)
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 10:48:16AM -0500, Nick Marsh wrote:
    > > I have been using MySQL on RedHat for about a year now. My hardcode
    > > geek friends keep telling me that PostgreSQL is better. Can anyone
    > > offer some insight as to the advantages of using one over the other?
    >
    > Start with Google. A search for "postgres mysql" will yield lots of
    > history.
    >
    > If your geek friend is any good he will give you specifics as to why
    > PosgreSQL is better. Depending on what you're doing, it might not
    > matter, or it might matter a lot. Note that both databases are
    > constantly improving, so old comparisons may no longer be valid.

    Tom

    Thomas S. Fortner
    Burleson, Texas
    thomas.fortner@sbcglobal.net
    "but we preach Christ crucified..." 1 Corinthians 1:23 

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