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From: Aly Dharshi (aly.dharshi_at_uleth.ca)
Date: 09/24/03

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    From: "Tom spot Callaway" <tcallawa@redhat.com>
    To: fedora-list@redhat.com
    Subject: Re: Fedora Project: Announcing New Direction
    Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:15:27 -0500

    On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 15:45, Paul Gear wrote:

    > Here's my explanation of what i'm looking for:
    > http://paulgear.webhop.net/the_page_formerly_known_as_rhel.html

    The costs of producing your distribution would cause Red Hat to lose
    money on every box set produced. The Red Hat Linux box set model was not
    profitable. Red Hat is a corporate entity, and we are in this to make
    money.

    That means that we might not have a product that fits your needs, and
    yes, that sucks. But we put source code for everything in the
    distribution out there for you to use under a license that lets you do
    whatever you want with it. Most corporations would be horrified at the
    thought of such a thing.

    Red Hat doesn't have to do a Fedora Core. We could focus all our efforts
    on RHEL and tell everyone who doesn't want to pay us $$$ to stop
    bothering us. We are doing a Fedora Core. We're trying to make the
    developers and the open source community happy. We're trying to give
    them a chance to make a really good Linux distribution in the spirit and
    style of Red Hat Linux.

    And undoubtedly, this is going to piss off a lot of people who were
    quite happily taking advantage of Red Hat Linux with 3 years of errata
    without paying a cent. We can't do that anymore. It's too expensive,
    we'd cease to exist. Fedora Core is the compromise. We spent a long time
    trying to make the most people happy, we listened to all the complaints
    (yes, even the most irrational ones), and we came up with the best
    option we could.

    If you don't want to pay for RHN, Fedora Core will support multiple
    types of package repositories. If you do, we'll have that available to
    you. If you want updates beyond what Red Hat builds for the Fedora
    project, volunteer to maintain it yourself. If you want to build an RPM
    that violates 14 patent laws and the Geneva convention, we can't support
    you or link to you, but we can't stop you either.

    We've put a lot of skin in the game, not to mention engineering time and
    money, because we believe that Open Source works. But we can't go under
    for Open Source.

    Simply put: Fedora Core is what you make it. I could elaborate on that
    point endlessly, but the point of it is to give the control back to the
    community. Red Hat is going to help, we're going to oversee, but we're
    not going to restrict it.

    I agree wholeheartedly that we need to do something special for the
    unique needs of educational institutions, and we're working on
    something. If your educational institution would like to talk about
    finding a way to meet your Linux needs through Red Hat, I would be happy
    to arrange such a discussion.
     
    ~spot

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