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Message: 4
Subject: Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse
	proxy	mode?
From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
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Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
Date: 26 Oct 2003 13:24:51 -0500
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On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 12:20, Mike Pelley wrote:
> It is a good start!  I have it working for the main (e.g. www.foo.com)
> web site.  However, there are virutal hosts running on that server
> (e.g., they all use the same IP address with DNS CNAMEs).  I've tried
> to do the following:
One other thought:  if you're really hard up, and you can't find
anything on Google, sign up for a demo Safari account at O'Reilly. 
Their Apache book has entire chapters (8 and 9, respectively) dedicated
to Rewrites and Proxies.  Check it out here:
http://safari.oreilly.com/?x=1&mode=section&sortKey=title&sortOrder=asc&view
=&xmlid=0-596-00203-3&open=false&g=&catid=&s=1&b=1&f=1&t=1&c=1&u=1&r=&o=1&sr
chText=
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Message: 5
From: "Harish Sabnani" <harish.sabnani@cyberhutoman.com>
To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: USRobotics Modem Driver
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:55:24 +0400
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Hi All,
My Linux 9 box is not detecting US Robotics External Modem, but in 8 it =
used too, I even tried Kudzu but no results, tried googling a bit but =
cant find the right way, Can anyone tell me which module I have to load? =
or how do I go about configuring this modem, help will be appreciated.
Thanks=20
Harish 
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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>My Linux 9 box is not detecting US =
Robotics=20
External Modem, but in 8 it used too, I even tried Kudzu but no results, =
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appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Thanks </FONT></DIV>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:03:44 -0330
From: Mike Pelley <mike@pelleys.com>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse
proxy	mode?
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That's It!!!!  Thanks!  I had to put the IP of the reverse proxy in 
there and all is fine.
Cheers,
Mike
Jason Dixon wrote:
>On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 12:20, Mike Pelley wrote:
>  
>
>>It is a good start!  I have it working for the main (e.g. www.foo.com)
>>web site.  However, there are virutal hosts running on that server
>>(e.g., they all use the same IP address with DNS CNAMEs).  I've tried
>>to do the following:
>>    
>>
>
>Do you have a NameVirtualHost directive preceeding your VirtualHost
>directives?  It should look something like this, for the IP that you're
>listening on:
>
>NameVirtualHost x.x.x.x
>-or-
>NameVirtualHost *
>
>Besides this, I'm not going to be much assistance... I've never tried
>reverse proxies with Apache.  Good luck.
>
>  
>
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That's It!!!! &nbsp;Thanks! &nbsp;I had to put the IP of the reverse proxy
in there
and all is fine.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
Jason Dixon wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid1067192283.2732.13.camel@lappy.fuzzypenguin.net">
  <pre wrap="">On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 12:20, Mike Pelley wrote:
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">It is a good start!  I have it working for the main (e.g.
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="http://www.foo.com">www.foo.com</a>)
web site.  However, there are virutal hosts running on that server
(e.g., they all use the same IP address with DNS CNAMEs).  I've tried
to do the following:
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
Do you have a NameVirtualHost directive preceeding your VirtualHost
directives?  It should look something like this, for the IP that you're
listening on:
NameVirtualHost x.x.x.x
-or-
NameVirtualHost *
Besides this, I'm not going to be much assistance... I've never tried
reverse proxies with Apache.  Good luck.
  </pre>
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Message: 7
Subject: Web Monitor
From: Patrick Nelson <pnelson@neatech.com>
To: RedHat List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Organization: Neatech.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:59:00 -0800
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
I need a website monitoring tool.  Anyone know of anything good to run
off a RH7.3 system?
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Message: 8
From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" <jslivko@slackercentral.com>
To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: Web Monitor
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:02:05 -0500
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Nagios? Big Brother 2? 
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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:59 PM
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Subject: Web Monitor
I need a website monitoring tool.  Anyone know of anything good to run
off a RH7.3 system?
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:04:28 +0100 (CET)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manuel=20Ar=F3stegui=20Ramirez?= <manuaroste@yahoo.es>
Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
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 --- Harish Sabnani <harish.sabnani@cyberhutoman.com>
escribio: > Hi All,
> My Linux 9 box is not detecting US Robotics External
> Modem, but in 8 it used too, I even tried Kudzu but
> no results, tried googling a bit but cant find the
> right way, Can anyone tell me which module I have to
> load? or how do I go about configuring this modem,
> help will be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks 
> Harish  
Maybe you have not mount your USB port.
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:10:42 -0500
From: fred smith <fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
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On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 10:55:24PM +0400, Harish Sabnani wrote:
> Hi All,
> My Linux 9 box is not detecting US Robotics External Modem, but in 8 it u=
sed too, I even tried Kudzu but no results, tried googling a bit but cant f=
ind the right way, Can anyone tell me which module I have to load? or how d=
o I go about configuring this modem, help will be appreciated.
>=20
> Thanks=20
> Harish
I don't think the config tools do much for you, so it should be pretty
easy to set it up yourself.
1. Look in /dev to see if there's a /dev/modem.
2. if there is, it should be a symbolic link. see what serial port
   it points to (ls -l /dev/modem).
2.a if there is not, skip to step 4
3. if the port it points to is the one your modem is connected to,
   then you should be home free. Fire up some app that uses the modem,
   tell it to use /dev/modem, and see if it will fly. Depending on the=20
   app, you might (or might not) need to teach it some of the basic
   commands your modem uses. There should be config settings for this
   in any app that doesn't already know.
4. If not /dev/modem, or if it points to the wrong serial port, then
   remove it if it exists (rm -f /dev/modem). You'll need to be root for
   these steps.
5. create a new one that points to the right device. If your modem is on
   "com1", that is /dev/ttyS0, so make the new /dev/modem like this:
	ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/modem
   and for "com2" it would be
	ln -s /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem
And that's about all that Kudzu does for you, AFAIK.
Of course, we're asssuming here that it's a real modem, with a real built
in "AT" command set. If not, then you're on your own.=20
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Message: 11
From: "Bilal Dar" <bilal@it-pro.net>
To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: how to recover grub
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:25:39 +0300
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
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Hi,
I have a machine in which i have two OS's, linux and xp. I need to =
reinstall xp caz its microsft.
If i will reinstall windows i will lose my mbr and wont be getting the =
dual boot option anymore. I want to know how can i get grub back. I did =
it once before but i cant recall how i did it. Kindly let me know how to =
do it.
Thanks in advance
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a machine in which i have two =
OS's, linux=20
and xp. I need to reinstall xp caz its microsft.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If i will reinstall windows i will lose =
my mbr and=20
wont be getting the dual boot option anymore. I want to know how can i =
get grub=20
back. I did it once before but i cant recall how i did it. Kindly let me =
know=20
how to do it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks in =
advance</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Message: 12
Subject: Re: Web Monitor
From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
Date: 26 Oct 2003 15:35:38 -0500
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 14:59, Patrick Nelson wrote:
> I need a website monitoring tool.  Anyone know of anything good to run
> off a RH7.3 system?
You haven't given us very much information.  What exactly about the
website are you trying to monitor?  What kind of agents do you prefer? 
What kind of notifications do you prefer?  Do you need something
extensible, that you can write your own modules/agents for?  In what
language?
For the money (free), you can't beat Nagios.  It far outperforms
SiteScope many other commercial monitoring packages.  It can take a bit
of time to configure, but it is NOT difficult.  It's written in Perl, so
if you're a perl hacker, you'll feel right at home.  And even if you're
not, the basic agents should suffice.
Of course, if you just want something to monitor basic signs of life, it
would be trivial to write something in shell/perl/expect that would a)
ping the site or b) connect to 80 and perform a GET and c) evaluate the
output for accuracy.
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Message: 13
Subject: Re: how to recover grub
From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
Date: 26 Oct 2003 15:37:08 -0500
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 15:25, Bilal Dar wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I have a machine in which i have two OS's, linux and xp. I need to
> reinstall xp caz its microsft.
>  
> If i will reinstall windows i will lose my mbr and wont be getting the
> dual boot option anymore. I want to know how can i get grub back. I
> did it once before but i cant recall how i did it. Kindly let me know
> how to do it.
man grub-install
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Message: 14
From: "Noel Collis" <noel_collis@hotmail.com>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Internet address lookup and ssh problem
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:45:32 -0400
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Hello,
I am having the following two problems:
Could not look up internet address for hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.
This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.
It may be possible to correct the problem by adding
hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx to the file /etc/hosts.
ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
I resolve the first one by adding hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx to my hosts file as 
suggested but I am wondering if this would cause my ssh login attempt to 
fail. Can some assist me in solving both problems.
Thanks,
Noel
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Message: 15
From: "Julien MIONI" <jmioni@bhj-is.com>
To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: RE : how to recover grub
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:59:57 +0100
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
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Hi,
=20
Once XP installed, you can boot on RH CD typing 'lminux rescue', chroot =
to
your installed system and run Grub. That should work.
=20
Julien
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De
la part de Bilal Dar
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Objet : how to recover grub
Hi,
=20
I have a machine in which i have two OS's, linux and xp. I need to =
reinstall
xp caz its microsft.
=20
If i will reinstall windows i will lose my mbr and wont be getting the =
dual
boot option anymore. I want to know how can i get grub back. I did it =
once
before but i cant recall how i did it. Kindly let me know how to do it.
=20
Thanks in advance
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D868295820-26102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D868295820-26102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Once=20
XP installed, you can boot on RH CD typing 'lminux rescue', chroot to =
your=20
installed system and run Grub. That should work.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D868295820-26102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D868295820-26102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Julien</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De&nbsp;:</B>=20
  redhat-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:redhat-list-admin@redhat.com] =
<B>De la=20
  part de</B> Bilal Dar<BR><B>Envoy=E9&nbsp;:</B> dimanche 26 octobre =
2003=20
  21:26<BR><B>=C0&nbsp;:</B> =
redhat-list@redhat.com<BR><B>Objet&nbsp;:</B> how to=20
  recover grub<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a machine in which i have two =
OS's, linux=20
  and xp. I need to reinstall xp caz its microsft.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If i will reinstall windows i will =
lose my mbr=20
  and wont be getting the dual boot option anymore. I want to know how =
can i get=20
  grub back. I did it once before but i cant recall how i did it. Kindly =
let me=20
  know how to do it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks in=20
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Message: 16
From: "Harish Sabnani" <harish.sabnani@cyberhutoman.com>
To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:08:33 +0400
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Thanks for yr help, I tried this but and when I query the modem in KPPP I
get an error that the modem is busy!
I believe  the real issue is in loading the appropirate module for USR
external modem?Any suggestions abt where will I find the module?Its supposed
to be PnP which means that the kernel loads the module when it boots but in
this case I dont see that. Pls advice, my understanding is limited.
Regards
Harish
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From: "fred smith" <fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:29:26 -0500
From: fred smith <fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 01:08:33AM +0400, Harish Sabnani wrote:
> Thanks for yr help, I tried this but and when I query the modem in KPPP I
> get an error that the modem is busy!
> I believe  the real issue is in loading the appropirate module for USR
> external modem?Any suggestions abt where will I find the module?Its suppo=
sed
> to be PnP which means that the kernel loads the module when it boots but =
in
> this case I dont see that. Pls advice, my understanding is limited.
>=20
If it's just an ordinary serial modem (not USB, right?) there are no
special modules involved.
if you know what serial port it's attached to, you might try verifying
that the port is really alive by using "setserial -g /dev/ttyS0" or ttyS1
or whatever the device actually is. That should report the properties
of the serial port, or some kind of error if it's not found or is having
problems of some sort.
I don't know anything about KPPP so I can't help there. But,...
If the setserial hack seems to be good, you could try something like
this:
	echo ATDT1-234-567-8901 > /dev/modem
using some phone number you know is safe to dial without waking up=20
someone who wouldn't appreciate it (!) and see if the modem dials,
or even if any of the lights on it blink.
If so, then that implies that you can talk to the serial port and=20
thence the modem. If so, then the problem wiht KPPP is something
other than the device not existing.
> Regards
> Harish
>=20
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> To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:10 AM
> Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:55:07 +1000
From: "Peter B. West" <pbwest@powerup.com.au>
Organization: The Spanish Inquisition
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Can't create symbolic links in mounted vfat partition
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Marcus,
RTM.  'man mount' will tell you that 'user' does not take an argument, 
but specifies that any user should be able to mount the partition.  To 
set the UID of the files in the partition, use the 'uid=...' and 
'gid=...' arguments in fstab.  You may have to use 'umask=777' (or 775) 
instead of fmask and dmask.  The manual states that fmask and dmask are 
present since 4.5.43, which I assume is a kernel version.  Others have 
pointed out that Windows partitions do not support links.
Peter
Marcus Claesson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm having problem doing certain things to my vfat (WinXP,FAT32)
> partition from RedHat 9.
> 
> It's mounted like this
> 
> /dev/hda5 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw,fmask=777,dmask=777,user=marcus)
> 
> It looks like this:
> 
> [marcus@miah marcus]$ ll /mnt/
> total 36
> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 Oct 17 14:26 cdrom
> drwxrwxrwx   12 root     root        32768 Jan  1  1970 windows
> 
> I can write to it as root, and as another user I can read but not write
> to it,
> not even as 'marcus'.
> 
> I think it has to do with the same thing as that I can't create links on
> this
> partition:
> 
> [root@miah windows]# ln -s file.txt file_link
> ln: creating symbolic link `file_link' to `file.txt': Operation not
> permitted
> 
> Does anyone out there know how I should mount this partition so these
> things
> will work. Really appreciate any help!
> 
> Regards,
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 19
From: Phil Savoie <psavoie1783@rogers.com>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com, "Bilal Dar" <bilal@it-pro.net>
Subject: Re: how to recover grub
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:37:14 -0500
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
On Sunday 26 October 2003 15:25, Bilal Dar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a machine in which i have two OS's, linux and xp. I need to
> reinstall xp caz its microsft.
>
> If i will reinstall windows i will lose my mbr and wont be getting the
dual
> boot option anymore. I want to know how can i get grub back. I did it once
> before but i cant recall how i did it. Kindly let me know how to do it.
>
> Thanks in advance
Hello,
Assuming that you only have one harddrive installed, please do the
following:
Boot into the system with the RedHat cd 1 of 3 and at the boot promtp type:
linux rescue
Follow and answer the prompts (skip CD check if asked).  Eventually you will
be asked if it is ok to look for any RH distros on the drive.  Answer yes.
At the command prompt type:
chroot /mnt/sysimage
Once this is done, then type:
grub-install /dev/hda  (Again, assuming you only have one hard drive 
installed)
Regards,
Phil Savoie
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:22:39 +1000
From: "Peter B. West" <pbwest@powerup.com.au>
Organization: The Spanish Inquisition
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Fedora
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Jeff,
So what's your opinion of RH9, both for commercial and personal use.  I 
upgraded my 7.3 personal systems to 9, after having redhat installed on 
at least one system since somewhere in the 4's, I think, and I have 
never had so many things break on an upgrade before.  A lot of my 
problems have been to do with the font changes, and others with the move 
to a default Unicode environment.  There has been much wailing and 
gnashing of teeth.
Peter
Jeff Lasman wrote:
> On Saturday 25 October 2003 00:01, Thomas Smith wrote:
> 
> 
>>Check out the links above. It appears that Red Hat is dumping their
>>OpenSource version of "Red Hat Linux" and renaming it Fedora and
>>stating that it's for "Developer or highly technical enthusiast using
>>Linux in non-critical computing environments".
> 
> 
> That's Red Hat's official opinion.  In my opinion, Red Hat's opinion is 
> based on their need and desire to sell their commercial product.
> 
> You'll find a very different opinion on the Fedora list, especially in 
> response to a thread I contributed to with the subject of "CNET News 
> Article".
> 
> 
>>I'd like to get some opinions regarding Fedora and its viability in a
>>production environment. It sounds to me that Red Hat is simply using
>>Fedora as a test bed and developer release for its commercial-only
>>Red Hat Linux offerings.
> 
> 
> While I have real concerns about using Fedora in commercial 
> applications, I believe they may just be overcome in time.  In the 
> meantime, the Fedora Legacy group has committed to maintaining RHL 7.3 
> into the future, and that's what I'm sticking with for now.
> 
> Jeff
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Message: 21
From: Justin Banks <justinb@constantdata.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:36:50 -0600
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Fedora
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Peter B. West wrote
> Jeff,
> 
> So what's your opinion of RH9, both for commercial and personal use.  I 
> upgraded my 7.3 personal systems to 9, after having redhat installed on 
> at least one system since somewhere in the 4's, I think, and I have 
> never had so many things break on an upgrade before.  A lot of my 
> problems have been to do with the font changes, and others with the move 
> to a default Unicode environment.  There has been much wailing and 
> gnashing of teeth.
I'll chime in here, just because I feel strongly about this. RH9 broke so 
many things it was a disgrace. As near as I can tell, NPTL wasn't even
integration tested, what with the number of apps that broke. Really, it's 
*still* broken, so much so that I've got LD_ASSUME_KERNEL sprinkled all over
the place, at least on the boxes that haven't been taken back to RH8.
-justinb
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Constant Data, Inc.
http://www.constantdata.com
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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:51:33 -0600
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz@simpaticus.com>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Fedora
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
At 18:36 10/26/2003, Justin Banks wrote:
>Peter B. West wrote
> > So what's your opinion of RH9, both for commercial and personal use.  I
> > upgraded my 7.3 personal systems to 9 [...] and I have
> > never had so many things break on an upgrade before.
>
>I'll chime in here, just because I feel strongly about this. RH9 broke so
>many things it was a disgrace.
For the sake of counterpoint and playing devil's advocate, I have 3 
workstations, 2 notebooks, and about 10 servers on RH9. All were clean 
installs, not upgrades. A variety of software is run, all installed using 
RPM and obtained either from Red Hat, FreshRPMS, Fedora Project, or 
Freshmeat/Sourceforge. Not one single machine has given me a single 
minute's trouble since they were installed and put online (pretty much 
right after 9 came out).
I'm happily running my home and my small webhosting business as well as 
several firewall/gateway/netserver boxen on 9, and making money off them. I 
also do a fair bit of Q&A for friends who run Red Hat, and so far none of 
them have complained about anything wrong either. Sorry you two had 
problems (and I am aware that yes, there were some problems with 9) but, 
your mileage may vary!
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Rodolfo J. Paiz
rpaiz@simpaticus.com
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:33:21 +1000
From: "Peter B. West" <pbwest@powerup.com.au>
Organization: The Spanish Inquisition
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Fedora
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
> At 18:36 10/26/2003, Justin Banks wrote:
> 
>> Peter B. West wrote
>> > So what's your opinion of RH9, both for commercial and personal use.  I
>> > upgraded my 7.3 personal systems to 9 [...] and I have
>> > never had so many things break on an upgrade before.
>>
>> I'll chime in here, just because I feel strongly about this. RH9 broke so
>> many things it was a disgrace.
> 
> 
> For the sake of counterpoint and playing devil's advocate, I have 3 
> workstations, 2 notebooks, and about 10 servers on RH9. All were clean 
> installs, not upgrades. A variety of software is run, all installed 
> using RPM and obtained either from Red Hat, FreshRPMS, Fedora Project, 
> or Freshmeat/Sourceforge. Not one single machine has given me a single 
> minute's trouble since they were installed and put online (pretty much 
> right after 9 came out).
> 
> I'm happily running my home and my small webhosting business as well as 
> several firewall/gateway/netserver boxen on 9, and making money off 
> them. I also do a fair bit of Q&A for friends who run Red Hat, and so 
> far none of them have complained about anything wrong either. Sorry you 
> two had problems (and I am aware that yes, there were some problems with 
> 9) but, your mileage may vary!
One of mine was an upgrade, one a clean install, onto which I ported 
much that I had accumulated over the years.  I have always had trouble 
wit upgrades, because so much of what I have customized is either blown 
away, or left intact but semi- or non-workable.  I always allowed a day 
after an upgrade to get things back to normal.  9 seriously broke 
backward compatibility, and I am still finding things that don't work 
the same way months later.  Not a problem for new users, but critical 
for upgraders.  There was nothing that I saw in the installation 
procedures that pointed me to warnings about likely problems in upgrade 
situations, and the workarounds.
This list is the best resource I have found to date.
Peter
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Message: 24
From: Justin Banks <justinb@constantdata.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:14:21 -0600
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Fedora
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote
> I'm happily running my home and my small webhosting business as well as 
> several firewall/gateway/netserver boxen on 9, and making money off them.
I 
> also do a fair bit of Q&A for friends who run Red Hat, and so far none of 
> them have complained about anything wrong either. Sorry you two had 
> problems (and I am aware that yes, there were some problems with 9) but, 
> your mileage may vary!
I advise anyone running any multithreaded applications to stay away from
RH9.
-justinb
-- 
Justin Banks
Constant Data, Inc.
http://www.constantdata.com
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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:17:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Keith Morse <kgmorse@mpcu.com>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Internet address lookup and ssh problem
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Noel Collis wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am having the following two problems:
> 
> Could not look up internet address for hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.
> This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.
> It may be possible to correct the problem by adding
> hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx to the file /etc/hosts.
> 
> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
In my experience, this message is due to remote host having tcp wrappers 
enabled for sshd.  I'd check /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny and any 
entries in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.
> 
> I resolve the first one by adding hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx to my hosts file as 
> suggested but I am wondering if this would cause my ssh login attempt to 
> fail. Can some assist me in solving both problems.
> 
> Thanks,
> Noel
> 
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Message: 26
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:36:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Keith Morse <kgmorse@mpcu.com>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Setting up userquota question
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Jason Williams wrote:
> Next, I tried to run quotacheck -avug and received this:
> 
> $ quotacheck -avug
> quotacheck: Cannot get quotafile name for /dev/sda6
> 
> 
> After tinkering a bit, I did this:
> 
> quotacheck -acvu ( dont need group quotas)
> 
> and this worked. It created the file aquota.user in /home
> 
> So I was curious if the reason why it did not work the first time was 
> becuase I did not specify the -c flag?
> 
> Lastly, i'd like to learn more about using quotas. Any suggested further 
> readings?
> 
Unfortunately no, just wanted to say I had similar problems setting up 
quota.  The first host I did, no matter what I couldn't get quotacheck to 
work.  Ended up having to run a fsck on the partition even though it 
wasn't due and fsck did not find any problems.  But after the fsck, 
quotacheck worked like a charm.  Call me quota puzzled too.
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Message: 27
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:21:32
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
From: Thierry ITTY <thierry.itty@besancon.org>
Subject: Re: Can I boot from a USB Disk?
Cc: clemens@dwf.com
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Hello
sure you didn't find anything on it...
I'm trying to do that since a while (2 monthes) without success.
I even posted several messages on this list, without any answer.
whenever you happen to get it sucessfull, please let me know !!!
btw
- you can install rh9 on an usb disk without touching the internal disks,
no problem. build the standard boot diskette and the block device driver
diskette from the install cd, boot on the former in expert mode, insert the
latter when asked, this will give you access to the usb drive, then install
as usually
- you _should_ be able to boot on the usb disk without problem _if_ your
bios provides this feature
- if it doesn't, then you _need_ a special boot diskette with usb/scsi
drivers. here's the pain for me : i _cannot_ build a working diskette.
whatever things I try, boot always ends up in kernel panic, unable to mount
root fs.
- there's a special distro (stiix, slackware based) said to be able to boot
from an usb disk (with or without a diskette), maybe I (you ?) should try
and see how they did manage it, and try and apply this to rh9
hth
A 21:20 24/10/2003 -0600, vous avez ecrit :
>I havent seen this mentioned (but I havent been watching
>the list that carefully either), but I have a laptop that
>I would like to put a new distribution of RH9 on, and since
>the disk is small,
>Im wondering if I can boot from an attached USB Disk?
>
>If not, can I put the kernel on the ATA drive, and then
>mount a USB /root?
>
>I dont really want to buy a new disk for the laptop, but I
>do have a USB disk that has plenty of room on it...
>
>Guess Ill find out this weekend, but any problems/experiences
>any of you have had would be appreciated.
>-- 
>                                        Reg.Clemens
>                                        reg@dwf.com
>
>
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Message: 28
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:23:24 +0100 (CET)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manuel=20Ar=F3stegui=20Ramirez?= <manuaroste@yahoo.es>
Subject: Re: Internet address lookup and ssh problem
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
[root@Linux root]# nslookup 
Note:  nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from
future releases.
Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead. 
Run nslookup with
the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from
appearing.
> type=any
Server:         2-------
Address:        2-------
** server can't find type=any: NXDOMAIN
> yahoo.com
Server:         213.172.33.34
Address:        213.172.33.34#53
Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   yahoo.com
Address: 66.218.71.198
> 
 --- Keith Morse <kgmorse@mpcu.com> escribio: > On
Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Noel Collis wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am having the following two problems:
> > 
> > Could not look up internet address for
> hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.
> > This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.
> > It may be possible to correct the problem by
> adding
> > hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx to the file /etc/hosts.
> > 
> > ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by
> remote host
> 
> In my experience, this message is due to remote host
> having tcp wrappers 
> enabled for sshd.  I'd check /etc/hosts.allow
> /etc/hosts.deny and any 
> entries in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.
> 
> 
> > 
> > I resolve the first one by adding hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx
> to my hosts file as 
> > suggested but I am wondering if this would cause
> my ssh login attempt to 
> > fail. Can some assist me in solving both problems.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Noel
> > 
> >
>
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Message: 29
From: Abhijit Das <ADas@yodlee.com>
To: "'redhat-list@redhat.com'" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: redhat-list digest, Vol 1 #8436 - 23 msgs
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:45:03 +0530
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Hi Hugh 
Any idea why i am getting this err ? any other things to check ?
i am unable to crontab -l or crontab -e as user root. i am getting the same
err msg.
i am however able to do crontab -u -e xxx where xxx is my other user.
doing a crontab -l or crontab -e as my other user works fine. rest what i
did to check cron i have mentioned in my earlier email
anybody - any suggestions please
thx
Abhijit
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Today's Topics:
   1. RE: Thoughts on Fedora (Wade Chandler)
   2. iTunes inside of VMWare inside of Windows (Roberto Dohnert)
   3. UPDATE: iTunes inside of VMWare inside of Windows -- Internal CDRW
(Roberto Dohnert)
   4. RE: usb memory key (Mohamed Kerbachi)
   5. fsck erase files at startup ? (Mohamed Kerbachi)
   6. Re: rotate logs when they reach a certain size (Krishna Shekhar)
   7. Re: Transfering files in SSH (aT)
   8. Question on Crontab; unable to edit/list (Abhijit Das)
   9. Question on Crontab; unable to edit/list (Abhijit Das)
  10. Re: Network Problem-solved..Now another problem (Bilal Dar)
  11. RE: Question on Crontab; unable to edit/list (Hugh E Cruickshank)
  12. Question bout logrotate (cajun)
  13. Re: Question bout logrotate (Jason Dixon)
  14. [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode? (Mike
Pelley)
  15. Re: Question bout logrotate (cajun)
  16. Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy
       mode? (Jason Dixon)
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       de? (Jason Staudenmayer)
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Message: 1
From: "Wade Chandler" <wchandler@redesetgrow.com>
To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: Thoughts on Fedora
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:55:09 -0400
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
I get a little biased in these types of discussions.  I'm a programmer
and a system geek, so I say if you are affected by something jump in and
help out.  It's there, it's free, it's not that hard, and even if  you
can't program, you can learn some basics and help a programmer out.
Overall it will help anyone understand their system better (not just the
things they see, but the whole system, computer and OS inside and out).
I guess I see it like this.  We all obviously use Linux, and we all
appear to use Red Hat.  So, to me, that means we have some
responsibility in that community considering the costs involved for many
of us.  I find that I can be more productive on a Linux machine than I
can on my Windows (with the proper tools) so I'm all about making it
friendly for everyone and geeky for anyone who wants it to be.  I want
to be able to develop applications for Linux, and be able to think about
making that application on Windows, instead of feel like I have to.  Is
that sometime off in the future...yes I'd say so.  But, I feel this is
better accomplished through modules and add-ons.  I have a lot of things
I would like to do here, and I think Fedora is great(...now if I can
just find time..it always seems to out run me).  
On a more general note of where the question was going.  I think users
and testers and programmers can all help push fixes.  I also think it
comes down to the way anyone is approached or approaches someone.  We
all need to keep in mind that unless you are talking to someone from Red
Hat they are not getting paid to work on this stuff.  They do it for
their enjoyment.  Which believe it or not has pushed Linux itself
www.kernel.org good ol' Linus (which I know we all know).  But, I think
keeping that all in mind makes us ask questions with a different tone.
Maybe we don't have dollars here and there to push in someones face, but
simple gestures are really all it takes.  Developers want their work to
be good, so if there is a problem most are more than happy to fix it.
I think Red Hat will have more than enough developers working on Fedora
to guide these groups.  Just like the kernel every project needs
guidance.  Each piece needs someone who can control the flow well.  I
think these folks will come from RH in most cases (according to what I
read on the Fedora site).  Whether they are the best people for the job
or not will only be decided in time, and if they are not, then someone
will have to make some good decisions.  But, I still believe we have to
keep in mind that RH states on the Fedora web site that their commercial
software will be based on Fedora.  This means they have an interest in
it being good stable software.  Fedora will also have a release cycle.
So, use releases if you are burdened by untested code (I will only use
release versions unless testing).
I see Fedora as a way to shift some responsibility.  For instance, I use
RH9.  I paid absolutely nothing for it.  I love it more than any of my
other OS.  I like it better than AIX, Solaris, or XP.  I realize RH has
put an investment into the applications and packaging.  I can't thank
them enough.  But, at the same time, I understand that a company can't
front all the costs for everything, and I don't expect them to.  
Red Hat has employees, and those employees have families to feed.
Forget the stock holders for a moment.  Those same employees are going
to be working on Fedora.  I imagine many of them will be spending most
of their time working on Fedora, and the rest the value adds, commercial
things, and tech support.  Their pay check should be incentive for them
to perform.  
Enter users like myself who pay nothing most of the time when dealing
with Linux.  I don't feel like I should want to point many fingers if
I'm not willing to pitch in a bit.  That is where I think the community
comes into play.  Are we willing to say we like Red Hat, or do we start
using SuSE, Debian, or Slackware?  I believe Red Hat has done a great
job, and with the exception of SuSE who I put on the same level as RH, I
believe RH is the best Distro available.  So, I am willing to pitch in
when I can: answer a question here or there, look at some code if I need
to, update it and create a patch if I need to (for things I use
mainly...so I'm selfish..:-(  bad quality I'd say, but I only have so
much time).
Anyways, to use my favorite analogy to Fedora, Netbeans.  Netbeans is
sponsered by Sun Microsystems.  It is also a free open source product.
I use it day in and day out to write Java software.  I think it is one
of the best IDEs available.  I like tooo many things about it to
mention.  I can't say anything bad about it, though some things I wish
could be different.  But, all in all, compare it to anything else, it
still shines.  Compare it to Jbuilder (rather costly).  I would use
Netbeans any day.  Compare it to Eclipse..I think it runs circles around
it (my own opinion).  The only thing I think Jbuilder has better deals
with the files Netbeans uses for it's GUI designer, but that is a small
thing, and it can eventually be worked out.  
Netbeans rolls out patches in a very timely manner.  You will also
notice that many of the developers have .... Sun.com at the end of their
emails.  This means they are a paid programmer.  Which is a good thing.
This means some where there is someone putting together a little upfront
design effort to make things role a little smoother (generally
speaking). But, don't let that fool you about open source projects
without corperate backers.  Though, corporate backing is good because it
means there is someone who is devoting time to working on the project,
and they are being paid to do it.  Just to say it, Apache is a
non-profit, but you will find corporations using it, and some
contributing handsomely.
I believe we will see patches flying out of Fedora.  I may be wrong, but
the only reason I can imagine them not doing so will be because of some
sick restrictions Red Hat could lay on the projects.  I don't see that
happening, but if it did, that would be a reason for slow response time.
In general open source projects fix bugs faster than commercial ones, or
this has been my experience rather.  It will all depend on the model
used.  Some company's like Seapine software are an exception to this
rule.  They produce a source control system called Surround which I
believe is better than any other.  They have fixed bugs and released
upgrades rather rapidly.  We have been beta testers at different times
for them.  You'd have to check it out to see what I mean.  Clients on
Mac, Windows, and Linux.  Side tracked....but it is good.
Also, something else to keep in mind.  Most of the applications we use
on Linux are open source.  Which means, they have a home of their own.
Patches are usually going to depend on those developers anyways.  So,
probably an important thing to remember is that Fedora projects will
include a lot of code reviewing.  i.e. OpenSSH will be reviewed by
developers responsible for the section that package fits into, then
there will be collaboration with the actual OpenSSH project.  You can
definitely expect this to be the case.  Code review and collaboration
will catch more bugs than you can imagine.  This is a plus.
Anyways, those are a bunch of my jumbled thoughts.  I hope this is
coherent enough for the debate.  It is 11:39PM US EST at the moment in
good ol'NC.  :-D.  I won't assume too much however until I have a
milestone to throw FUD against, so in all fairness....I say we wait on a
release and give it a while.  :-)
Wade
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On Behalf Of Rodolfo J. Paiz
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 10:40 PM
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on Fedora
At 20:15 10/25/2003, you wrote:
>I don't agree with the notion that some how Fedora is going to be any 
>less stable than the "free" RH9 many use on this list now.
Neither do I. However, to give you something to think about, the "other"
argument against Fedora according to some people is that you cannot be
sure 
that "the community" will roll out patches and security updates in a
timely 
fashion. That is a valid concern, since this early in the game we do not
yet know how that will be done and speculation is to be expected.
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:36:31 -0400
From: Roberto Dohnert <webwarrior@gnu-darwin.org>
To: trilug@trilug.org
CC: suse-linux-e@suse.com, fedora-list@redhat.com, redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: iTunes inside of VMWare inside of Windows
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I have recieved numerous e-mails about this issue and I thought I would 
make it known to any and all interested parties since I am the 
proclaimed expert of Windows inside of VMWare.  Yes, the new iTunes can 
be run inside of Windows inside of VMWare but, (yes you knew a but was 
coming) You cannot run visualizations because VMWare drivers do not 
support OpenGL, Do not allocate less than 256mb of RAM for the guest OS, 
I highly reccomend upgrading to VMWare 4.0.5 since memory management was 
greatly improved in that version.  If you wish to use it inside of 
VMWare 4.0.0 or below, YOU CANNOT BE DOING ANYTHING IN LINUX.  The Apple 
Music Store works, you can access the store and download and do what you 
want.  If you wish to make custom CD's on an internal CD-RW you are out 
of luck I think, I have to do some more testing with mine, but upon 
inital testing it didnt work. but with External burners it works fine, 
unload the USB mass storage Modules in Linux before you can mount the 
external burner in the guest OS.  If you are going to use the iPod with 
VMWare make sure it is not mounted in Linux otherwise VMWare refuses to 
see it
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:15:41 -0500
From: Roberto Dohnert <webwarrior@gnu-darwin.org>
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CC: suse-linux-e@suse.com, redhat-list@redhat.com, fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: UPDATE: iTunes inside of VMWare inside of Windows -- Internal CDRW
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Did not take me long at all, Yes you can do a burn using an Internal 
CD-RW.  When you go to add the device you cannot do it by its hd label, 
you have to give VMWare the serial emulation, for Example under SUSE 
Linux 9 my serial emulation label is /dev/sr1.  That is the information 
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Message: 4
Subject: RE: usb memory key
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:08:37 +0100
From: "Mohamed Kerbachi" <Mohamed.Kerbachi@OTALGERIE.com>
To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
I have used many memory flash with RedHat 9.0 with nno problem just issue
"tail -f /var/log/message" and plug the usb  flash you will se a message 
and mount the drive like this:
mkdir /mnt/flash
mount -t vfat /dev/What_You_See_in_LOG_MESSGAES  /mnt/flash
hope that help ;)
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Envoye : dimanche 26 octobre 2003 00:07
A : redhat-list@redhat.com
Objet : Re: usb memory key
William Burgos wrote:
> 
> I can I mount a usb memory key?
> 
> Do I need some drivers or are these already in RH9
The drivers you need are included in the kernel in RH9.  You've been 
advised to mount /dev/sda1, but most of the sticks I've seen don't have 
partitions.
When you plug the memory stick in, log in as root and use
'fdisk -l /dev/sda' to look at the partition table.  If it looks like 
nonsense (you'll know what I mean), then your memory stick doesn't have 
partitions, and you should mount /dev/sda.
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Subject: fsck erase files at startup ?
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:29:13 +0100
From: "Mohamed Kerbachi" <Mohamed.Kerbachi@OTALGERIE.com>
To: "RedHat mailling list (E-mail)" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
		A server that i can admin reboot very often (all partition
are ext2) so an fsck is always made. Now i see some log files are erased and
a new ones are created by OS???!!! is it possible that fsck erase files ??
		thx
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Message: 6
From: "Krishna Shekhar" <krishna.shekhar@in.spectranet.com>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: rotate logs when they reach a certain size
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:44:33 +0530
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Hi, 
    Better use logrotate. Edit the configuration files in 
/etc/logrotate.conf and /etc/logrotate.d/ 
regards,
Krishna, RHCE
Network/Systems Engineer
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Keith R Wood writes: 
> find DIRECTORYNAME -size XX -type f -exec rm -f {} ";" 
> 
> The above command will search starting in the directory DIRECTORYNAME
> (and below) and find all files that are of size XX and delete them. 
> 
> This command could easily be put in a crontab file. 
> 
> XX is in 512 byte blocks by default. If c follows XX then the units will
> be bytes, if k follows XX then the units would be kilobytes. 
> 
> Hope this helps. 
> 
> krw 
> 
> On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 12:13, Genti Hila wrote:
>>  The cron jobs and logrotate seem to manipulate logs in a time basis, but
i
>> was trying to figure out a way how to make the logs delete when they get
big
>> to a certain size and not in a daily or weekly or whatever time basis. 
>> 
>> Does anybody know how to do that in Redhat 9 ? 
>> 
>> Genti 
>> 
>  
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From: aT <atif@bayt.com>
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To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Transfering files in SSH
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:48:50 +0400
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
did u try scp  ??
It comes wit ssh .
On Friday 24 October 2003 09:28, Christopher Lyon wrote:
> You can also give rsync a try
>
>
> rsync -e ssh .........
>
>
> man rsync
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Donald Tyler [mailto:dtyler@frazerbilt.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:56 AM
> > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
> > Subject: Transfering files in SSH
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I finally managed to get my firewall server up (Thanks to everyone on
> > the list who helped).
> >
> > I want to be able to administer the server remotely. But the only
> > problem I have is that I don't know how to transfer files from my
> > workstation to the server via SSH. Can anyone point me in the
>
> direction
>
> > of some info?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Donald
> >
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Message: 8
From: Abhijit Das <ADas@yodlee.com>
To: "'redhat-list@redhat.com'" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: Question on Crontab; unable to edit/list
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:48:03 +0530
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Hi 
my linux kernel is 2.2.20 
i am trying to edit/list crontab [i also tried crontab -e -u root]
but i am getting this err msg:
You (root) are not allowed to use this program (crontab) 
See crontab(1) for more information
i checked /etc/cron.allow root and my other users are listed [fyi i am able
to edit/list crontab with my other users]
there is no cron.deny file
i checked /var/spool/cron and root is listed there. i can do a more root to
see my crontab entries. 
i checked the crontab file under /usr/bin , nobody has tampered with the
permissions or setuid bit. 
what else can cause this err msg to come ? 
can anybody help me please
thx
Abhijit 
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Message: 9
From: Abhijit Das <ADas@yodlee.com>
To: "'redhat-list@redhat.com'" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: Question on Crontab; unable to edit/list
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:08:54 +0530
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
> Hi 
> 
> my linux kernel is 2.2.20 
> i am trying to edit/list crontab [i also tried crontab -e -u root]
> but i am getting this err msg:
> You (root) are not allowed to use this program (crontab) 
> See crontab(1) for more information
> 
> i checked /etc/cron.allow root and my other users are listed [fyi i am
> able to edit/list crontab with my other users]
> there is no cron.deny file
> 
> i checked /var/spool/cron and root is listed there. i can do a more root
> to see my crontab entries. 
> i checked the crontab file under /usr/bin , nobody has tampered with the
> permissions or setuid bit. 
> 
> what else can cause this err msg to come ? 
> 
> can anybody help me please
> 
> thx
> Abhijit 
> 
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From: "Bilal Dar" <bilal@it-pro.net>
To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Network Problem-solved..Now another problem 
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:12:18 +0300
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Hi,
I had the same problem once ... just edit /etc/sysconfig/network
Bilal.
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From: "Hugh E Cruickshank" <hugh@forsoft.com>
To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: Question on Crontab; unable to edit/list
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 04:49:32 -0800
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Hi Abhijit:
The -u param is for use by the root user to access other user's
crontab files (the manpage say "privilege user"). You should be
able to do "crontab -e" for any user (including root) to edit
their own crontab file and "crontab -e -u xxx" for root to edit
user xxx's crontab file.
HTH
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From: Abhijit Das Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 02:18
> 
> Hi 
> 
> my linux kernel is 2.2.20 
> i am trying to edit/list crontab [i also tried crontab -e -u root]
> but i am getting this err msg:
> You (root) are not allowed to use this program (crontab) 
> See crontab(1) for more information
> 
> i checked /etc/cron.allow root and my other users are listed [fyi 
> i am able
> to edit/list crontab with my other users]
> there is no cron.deny file
> 
> i checked /var/spool/cron and root is listed there. i can do a 
> more root to
> see my crontab entries. 
> i checked the crontab file under /usr/bin , nobody has tampered with the
> permissions or setuid bit. 
> 
> what else can cause this err msg to come ? 
> 
> can anybody help me please
> 
> thx
> Abhijit 
> 
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:10:56 -0600
From: cajun <cajunlee@alltel.net>
To: RedHat-List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: Question bout logrotate
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Hi all,
One quick question bout logrotate, if someone could turn the light on 
for me I would be greatly in your debt.  In the example of logrotate 
they use the command killall.  Are they stopping the link between the 
log file and the process at this point?  The reason I am asking, I have 
a couple of logs that I want to add and was wondering if this is necessary?
Thanks for making this clearer!!!!
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Message: 13
Subject: Re: Question bout logrotate
From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
Date: 26 Oct 2003 10:22:10 -0500
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 10:10, cajun wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> One quick question bout logrotate, if someone could turn the light on 
> for me I would be greatly in your debt.  In the example of logrotate 
> they use the command killall.  Are they stopping the link between the 
> log file and the process at this point?  The reason I am asking, I have 
> a couple of logs that I want to add and was wondering if this is
necessary?
I'm not sure what version of RH you're using, but RH9's logrotate
scripts use kill (on my box).  Either way, yes, a kill/killall -HUP
(interrupt signal) is used to stop the process (closing the write on the
old logfile), and start the process (opening the write on the new
logfile).
View the killall manpage to understand how it's different from kill.
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:56:28 -0330
From: Mike Pelley <mike@pelleys.com>
To: redhat-list <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode?
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Sorry for the OT post - I'm in a time crunch and need a quick-and-dirty 
reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode.  Basically, I 
need to have the reference for http://www.foo.com go through to the 
reverse proxy to the internal web server.  The internal server is using 
virtual hosts as well.
Thanks!
Mike
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:32:54 -0600
From: cajun <cajunlee@alltel.net>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Question bout logrotate
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Jason Dixon wrote:
(snip)
>I'm not sure what version of RH you're using, but RH9's logrotate
>scripts use kill (on my box).  Either way, yes, a kill/killall -HUP
>(interrupt signal) is used to stop the process (closing the write on the
>old logfile), and start the process (opening the write on the new
>logfile).
>
>View the killall manpage to understand how it's different from kill.
>
>  
>
Thanks Jason and sorry bout that, I forgot to say that I am running RH9. 
 I have to remember to start putting that in all the questions that I 
ask.  That is what I thought that meant, but wanted to make sure.  I'm 
still learning!!
Thanks again.
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Message: 16
Subject: Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy
	mode?
From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
Date: 26 Oct 2003 10:34:55 -0500
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 10:26, Mike Pelley wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post - I'm in a time crunch and need a quick-and-dirty 
> reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode.  Basically, I 
> need to have the reference for http://www.foo.com go through to the 
> reverse proxy to the internal web server.  The internal server is using 
> virtual hosts as well.
You should be able to pull what you need out of this:
http://www.cafesoft.com/products/cams/docs/webagent/ApacheReverseProxy.html
HTH.
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From: Jason Staudenmayer <jasons@NJAQUARIUM.ORG>
To: "'redhat-list@redhat.com'" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mo
	de?
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:31:01 -0500
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Can you say "port forward"
The most recommended way to set that would be with iptables rule and not
with apache.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Pelley [mailto:mike@pelleys.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:26 AM
To: redhat-list
Subject: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode?
Sorry for the OT post - I'm in a time crunch and need a quick-and-dirty 
reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode.  Basically, I 
need to have the reference for http://www.foo.com go through to the 
reverse proxy to the internal web server.  The internal server is using 
virtual hosts as well.
Thanks!
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Subject: RE: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mo
	de?
From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
Date: 26 Oct 2003 10:42:54 -0500
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On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 10:31, Jason Staudenmayer wrote:
> Can you say "port forward"
> The most recommended way to set that would be with iptables rule and not
> with apache.
Not necessarily.  If you need to load-balance and/or distribute
different sites to different internal servers, an application proxy is
exactly the ticket.  He didn't specify whether he was redirecting ALL
http traffic or simply this domain.
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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:15:44 -0330
From: Mike Pelley <mike@pelleys.com>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mo
 de?
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Actually, we're doing this already.  We port forward TCP 80 to the 
internal web server.  However, this is an IIS server and the owner has a 
lack of confidence in IIS security (I wonder why ;-)  So, he'd like to 
put an Apache server in a DMZ and then have it forward requests to the 
internal server.  That way, he can still do his ASP "thing" but have 
Apache keeping direct access away.
Jason Staudenmayer wrote:
>Can you say "port forward"
>The most recommended way to set that would be with iptables rule and not
>with apache.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Pelley [mailto:mike@pelleys.com] 
>Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:26 AM
>To: redhat-list
>Subject: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode?
>
>
>Sorry for the OT post - I'm in a time crunch and need a quick-and-dirty 
>reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode.  Basically, I 
>need to have the reference for http://www.foo.com go through to the 
>reverse proxy to the internal web server.  The internal server is using 
>virtual hosts as well.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mike
>
>
>  
>
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Message: 30
Subject: Tips on re-installing and restoring on RedHat 9
From: Jim Macdonald <jimmmac@comcast.net>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:00:29 -0500
Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Good morning
I am planning to re-install RedHat 9 to get rid of a lot of junk I have
accumulated over time.  Open Office and Mozilla should be no problem.  I
have already posted to the Ximian Evolution list and talked to
Moneydance technical support.  I just don't want to miss anything.  I
already have my entire system backed up to DVD, Cd and partitions that I
won't touch.  Any tips and suggestions would be more than appreciated
when I get the system re-installed.  Thanks everyone for your input.
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