Re: Unable to edit / list using crontab -- for HUGH

From: Phil Savoie (psavoie1783_at_rogers.com)
Date: 10/27/03

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    It would be real nice if when sending your question that you *do not* send the
    entire digest with it as well. Common courtesy dictates a little trimming
    prior to sending please>

    Phil Savoie

    On Monday 27 October 2003 08:10, Abhijit Das wrote:
    > Hi Hugh
    >
    > Any idea why i am getting this err ? any other things to check ?
    > i am unable to crontab -l or crontab -e as user root. i am getting the same
    > err msg.
    > i am however able to do crontab -u -e xxx where xxx is my other user.
    > doing a crontab -l or crontab -e as my other user works fine. rest what i
    > did to check cron i have mentioned in my earlier email
    >
    > anybody - any suggestions please
    >
    > thx
    > Abhijit
    >
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    > 1. Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy
    > mode? (Mike Pelley)
    > 2. Re: rotate logs when they reach a certain size (Mike Vanecek)
    > 3. Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse
    > proxy mode? (Jason Dixon)
    > 4. Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse
    > proxy mode? (Jason Dixon)
    > 5. USRobotics Modem Driver (Harish Sabnani)
    > 6. Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy
    > mode? (Mike Pelley)
    > 7. Web Monitor (Patrick Nelson)
    > 8. RE: Web Monitor (Jonathan M. Slivko)
    > 9. Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
    > (=?iso-8859-1?q?Manuel=20Ar=F3stegui=20Ramirez?=)
    > 10. Re: USRobotics Modem Driver (fred smith)
    > 11. how to recover grub (Bilal Dar)
    > 12. Re: Web Monitor (Jason Dixon)
    > 13. Re: how to recover grub (Jason Dixon)
    > 14. Internet address lookup and ssh problem (Noel Collis)
    > 15. RE : how to recover grub (Julien MIONI)
    > 16. Re: USRobotics Modem Driver (Harish Sabnani)
    > 17. Re: USRobotics Modem Driver (fred smith)
    > 18. Re: Can't create symbolic links in mounted vfat partition (Peter B.
    > West)
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    > Message: 1
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:50:54 -0330
    > From: Mike Pelley <mike@pelleys.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy
    > mode?
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
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    > It is a good start! I have it working for the main (e.g. www.foo.com)
    > web site. However, there are virutal hosts running on that server
    > (e.g., they all use the same IP address with DNS CNAMEs). I've tried to
    > do the following:
    >
    > <VirtualHost *>
    > ServerName www.foo.com
    > ProxyRequests On
    > ProxyPass / http://internal-www.foo.com/
    > ProxyPassReverse / http://internal-www.foo.com/
    > CustomLog /var/log/httpd/www.rproxy.log combined
    > ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/www.rproxy.error.log
    > </VirtualHost>
    >
    >
    >
    > <VirtualHost *>
    > ServerName specialsite.foo.com
    > ProxyRequests On
    > ProxyPass / http://internal-specialsite.foo.com/
    > ProxyPassReverse / http://internal-specialsite.foo.com/
    > CustomLog /var/log/httpd/specialsite.rproxy.log combined
    > ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/specialsite.rproxy.error.log
    > </VirtualHost>
    >
    > But, I only get to the first VirtualHost. Any suggestions?
    >
    > Thanks!
    > Mike
    >
    > Jason Dixon wrote:
    > >On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 10:26, Mike Pelley wrote:
    > >>Sorry for the OT post - I'm in a time crunch and need a quick-and-dirty
    > >>reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode. Basically, I
    > >>need to have the reference for http://www.foo.com go through to the
    > >>reverse proxy to the internal web server. The internal server is using
    > >>virtual hosts as well.
    > >
    > >You should be able to pull what you need out of this:
    > >http://www.cafesoft.com/products/cams/docs/webagent/ApacheReverseProxy.htm
    > >l
    > >
    > >HTH.
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    > It is a good start! &nbsp;I have it working for the main (e.g. <a
    > class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.foo.com">www.foo.com</a>)
    > web
    > site. &nbsp;However, there are virutal hosts running on that server (e.g.,
    > they
    > all use the same IP address with DNS CNAMEs). &nbsp;I've tried to do the
    > following:<br>
    > <br>
    > &lt;VirtualHost *&gt;<br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ServerName <a
    > class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
    > href="http://www.foo.com">www.foo.com</a><br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ProxyRequests On<br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ProxyPass / <a
    > class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
    > href="http://internal-www.foo.com/">http://internal-www.foo.com/><br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ProxyPassReverse / <a
    > class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
    > href="    http://internal-www.foo.com/">http://internal-www.foo.com/><br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CustomLog
    > /var/log/httpd/www.rproxy.log combined<br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ErrorLog
    > /var/log/httpd/www.rproxy.error.log<br>
    > &lt;/VirtualHost&gt;<br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb
    >s
    > p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&
    >n
    > bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp
    >;
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb
    >s
    > p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&
    >n
    > bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp
    >; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    > <br>
    > &lt;VirtualHost *&gt;<br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ServerName
    > specialsite.foo.com<br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ProxyRequests On<br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ProxyPass / <a
    > class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
    > href="    http://internal-specialsite.foo.com/">http://internal-specialsite.foo
    >. com/</a><br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ProxyPassReverse / <a
    > class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
    > href="http://internal-specialsite.foo.com/">http://internal-specialsite.foo
    >. com/</a><br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CustomLog
    > /var/log/httpd/specialsite.rproxy.log combined<br>
    > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ErrorLog
    > /var/log/httpd/specialsite.rproxy.error.log<br>
    > &lt;/VirtualHost&gt;<br>
    > <br>
    > But, I only get to the first VirtualHost. &nbsp;Any suggestions?<br>
    > <br>
    > Thanks!<br>
    > Mike<br>
    > <br>
    > Jason Dixon wrote:<br>
    > <blockquote type="cite"
    > cite="mid1067182494.2732.5.camel@lappy.fuzzypenguin.net">
    > <pre wrap="">On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 10:26, Mike Pelley wrote:
    > </pre>
    > <blockquote type="cite">
    > <pre wrap="">Sorry for the OT post - I'm in a time crunch and need a
    > quick-and-dirty
    > reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode. Basically, I
    > need to have the reference for <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
    > href="http://www.foo.com">http://www.foo.com> go through to the
    > reverse proxy to the internal web server. The internal server is using
    > virtual hosts as well.
    > </pre>
    > </blockquote>
    > <pre wrap=""><!---->
    > You should be able to pull what you need out of this:
    > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
    > href="    http://www.cafesoft.com/products/cams/docs/webagent/ApacheReverseProx
    >y
    > .html">http://www.cafesoft.com/products/cams/docs/webagent/ApacheReversePro
    >x y.html</a>
    >
    > HTH.
    >
    > </pre>
    > </blockquote>
    > <br>
    > </body>
    > </html>
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    > Message: 2
    > From: "Mike Vanecek" <rh_list@mm-vanecek.cc>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: rotate logs when they reach a certain size
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:26:55 -0600
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 12:13, Genti Hila wrote:
    > > The cron jobs and logrotate seem to manipulate logs in a time basis, but
    >
    > i
    >
    > > was trying to figure out a way how to make the logs delete when they get
    >
    > big
    >
    > > to a certain size and not in a daily or weekly or whatever time basis.
    > >
    > > Does anybody know how to do that in Redhat 9 ?
    >
    > Put something like this in /etc/logrotate.conf
    >
    > # Newslog
    > /var/log/newslog {
    > missingok
    > compress
    > size 2M
    > rotate 3
    > create 0660 root news
    > }
    >
    > or the individual files such as
    >
    > [root@www root]# cat /etc/logrotate.d/amavis.log
    > # Restart amavisd when rotating amavis.log
    > /var/amavis/amavis.log {
    > rotate 4
    > compress
    > size 4M
    > postrotate
    > /sbin/service amavisd restart 2> /dev/null || true
    > endscript
    > }
    >
    > I rotate both on time and size. This forces a rotation monthly:
    >
    > [root@www root]# cat /etc/cron.monthly/logrotate
    > #!/bin/sh
    >
    > /usr/sbin/logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf
    >
    > This checks it daily for size:
    >
    > [root@www root]# cat /etc/cron.daily/logrotate
    > #!/bin/sh
    >
    > /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
    >
    > The size overrides the date unless the -f option is used. Hence, I always
    > rotate at the first of the month or whenever the size reaches the set size.
    >
    > HTHs.
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 3
    > Subject: Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse
    > proxy mode?
    > From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
    > To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
    > Date: 26 Oct 2003 13:18:03 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 12:20, Mike Pelley wrote:
    > > It is a good start! I have it working for the main (e.g. www.foo.com)
    > > web site. However, there are virutal hosts running on that server
    > > (e.g., they all use the same IP address with DNS CNAMEs). I've tried
    > > to do the following:
    >
    > Do you have a NameVirtualHost directive preceeding your VirtualHost
    > directives? It should look something like this, for the IP that you're
    > listening on:
    >
    > NameVirtualHost x.x.x.x
    > -or-
    > NameVirtualHost *
    >
    > Besides this, I'm not going to be much assistance... I've never tried
    > reverse proxies with Apache. Good luck.
    >
    > --
    > Jason Dixon, RHCE
    > DixonGroup Consulting
    > http://www.dixongroup.net
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 4
    > Subject: Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse
    > proxy mode?
    > From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
    > To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
    > Date: 26 Oct 2003 13:24:51 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 12:20, Mike Pelley wrote:
    > > It is a good start! I have it working for the main (e.g. www.foo.com)
    > > web site. However, there are virutal hosts running on that server
    > > (e.g., they all use the same IP address with DNS CNAMEs). I've tried
    > > to do the following:
    >
    > One other thought: if you're really hard up, and you can't find
    > anything on Google, sign up for a demo Safari account at O'Reilly.
    > Their Apache book has entire chapters (8 and 9, respectively) dedicated
    > to Rewrites and Proxies. Check it out here:
    >
    > http://safari.oreilly.com/?x=1&mode=section&sortKey=title&sortOrder=asc&vie
    >w
    > =&xmlid=0-596-00203-3&open=false&g=&catid=&s=1&b=1&f=1&t=1&c=1&u=1&r=&o=1&s
    >r chText=
    >
    > --
    > Jason Dixon, RHCE
    > DixonGroup Consulting
    > http://www.dixongroup.net
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 5
    > From: "Harish Sabnani" <harish.sabnani@cyberhutoman.com>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: USRobotics Modem Driver
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:55:24 +0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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    > Hi All,
    > My Linux 9 box is not detecting US Robotics External Modem, but in 8 it =
    > used too, I even tried Kudzu but no results, tried googling a bit but =
    > cant find the right way, Can anyone tell me which module I have to load? =
    > or how do I go about configuring this modem, help will be appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks=20
    > Harish
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    > <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
    > <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>My Linux 9 box is not detecting US =
    > Robotics=20
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    > <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    > Message: 6
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:03:44 -0330
    > From: Mike Pelley <mike@pelleys.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse
    > proxy mode?
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    >
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    > That's It!!!! Thanks! I had to put the IP of the reverse proxy in
    > there and all is fine.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Mike
    >
    > Jason Dixon wrote:
    > >On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 12:20, Mike Pelley wrote:
    > >>It is a good start! I have it working for the main (e.g. www.foo.com)
    > >>web site. However, there are virutal hosts running on that server
    > >>(e.g., they all use the same IP address with DNS CNAMEs). I've tried
    > >>to do the following:
    > >
    > >Do you have a NameVirtualHost directive preceeding your VirtualHost
    > >directives? It should look something like this, for the IP that you're
    > >listening on:
    > >
    > >NameVirtualHost x.x.x.x
    > >-or-
    > >NameVirtualHost *
    > >
    > >Besides this, I'm not going to be much assistance... I've never tried
    > >reverse proxies with Apache. Good luck.
    >
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    > <head>
    > <title></title>
    > </head>
    > <body>
    > That's It!!!! &nbsp;Thanks! &nbsp;I had to put the IP of the reverse proxy
    > in there
    > and all is fine.<br>
    > <br>
    > Cheers,<br>
    > Mike<br>
    > <br>
    > Jason Dixon wrote:<br>
    > <blockquote type="cite"
    > cite="mid1067192283.2732.13.camel@lappy.fuzzypenguin.net">
    > <pre wrap="">On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 12:20, Mike Pelley wrote:
    > </pre>
    > <blockquote type="cite">
    > <pre wrap="">It is a good start! I have it working for the main (e.g.
    > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
    > href="http://www.foo.com">www.foo.com</a>)
    > web site. However, there are virutal hosts running on that server
    > (e.g., they all use the same IP address with DNS CNAMEs). I've tried
    > to do the following:
    > </pre>
    > </blockquote>
    > <pre wrap=""><!---->
    > Do you have a NameVirtualHost directive preceeding your VirtualHost
    > directives? It should look something like this, for the IP that you're
    > listening on:
    >
    > NameVirtualHost x.x.x.x
    > -or-
    > NameVirtualHost *
    >
    > Besides this, I'm not going to be much assistance... I've never tried
    > reverse proxies with Apache. Good luck.
    >
    > </pre>
    > </blockquote>
    > <br>
    > </body>
    > </html>
    >
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    >
    > Message: 7
    > Subject: Web Monitor
    > From: Patrick Nelson <pnelson@neatech.com>
    > To: RedHat List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Organization: Neatech.com
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:59:00 -0800
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > I need a website monitoring tool. Anyone know of anything good to run
    > off a RH7.3 system?
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 8
    > From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" <jslivko@slackercentral.com>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: RE: Web Monitor
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:02:05 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Nagios? Big Brother 2?
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: redhat-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:redhat-list-admin@redhat.com]
    > On Behalf Of Patrick Nelson
    > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:59 PM
    > To: RedHat List
    > Subject: Web Monitor
    >
    > I need a website monitoring tool. Anyone know of anything good to run
    > off a RH7.3 system?
    >
    >
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    > Message: 9
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:04:28 +0100 (CET)
    > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manuel=20Ar=F3stegui=20Ramirez?= <manuaroste@yahoo.es>
    > Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > --- Harish Sabnani <harish.sabnani@cyberhutoman.com>
    > escribio: > Hi All,
    >
    > > My Linux 9 box is not detecting US Robotics External
    > > Modem, but in 8 it used too, I even tried Kudzu but
    > > no results, tried googling a bit but cant find the
    > > right way, Can anyone tell me which module I have to
    > > load? or how do I go about configuring this modem,
    > > help will be appreciated.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > > Harish
    >
    > Maybe you have not mount your USB port.
    >
    >
    > =====
    > --
    >
    > Manuel Arostegui Linux user 200896
    >
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    >
    > Message: 10
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:10:42 -0500
    > From: fred smith <fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
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    > On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 10:55:24PM +0400, Harish Sabnani wrote:
    > > Hi All,
    > > My Linux 9 box is not detecting US Robotics External Modem, but in 8 it
    > > u=
    >
    > sed too, I even tried Kudzu but no results, tried googling a bit but cant
    > f= ind the right way, Can anyone tell me which module I have to load? or
    > how d= o I go about configuring this modem, help will be appreciated.
    >
    > >=20
    > > Thanks=20
    > > Harish
    >
    > I don't think the config tools do much for you, so it should be pretty
    > easy to set it up yourself.
    >
    > 1. Look in /dev to see if there's a /dev/modem.
    > 2. if there is, it should be a symbolic link. see what serial port
    > it points to (ls -l /dev/modem).
    > 2.a if there is not, skip to step 4
    > 3. if the port it points to is the one your modem is connected to,
    > then you should be home free. Fire up some app that uses the modem,
    > tell it to use /dev/modem, and see if it will fly. Depending on the=20
    > app, you might (or might not) need to teach it some of the basic
    > commands your modem uses. There should be config settings for this
    > in any app that doesn't already know.
    > 4. If not /dev/modem, or if it points to the wrong serial port, then
    > remove it if it exists (rm -f /dev/modem). You'll need to be root for
    > these steps.
    > 5. create a new one that points to the right device. If your modem is on
    > "com1", that is /dev/ttyS0, so make the new /dev/modem like this:
    >
    > ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/modem
    >
    > and for "com2" it would be
    >
    > ln -s /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem
    >
    > And that's about all that Kudzu does for you, AFAIK.
    >
    > Of course, we're asssuming here that it's a real modem, with a real built
    > in "AT" command set. If not, then you're on your own.=20
    >
    > --=20
    > ---- Fred Smith -- fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ------------------------
    > -= ---
    > Do you not know? Have you not heard?=20
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    > =20
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    > Message: 11
    > From: "Bilal Dar" <bilal@it-pro.net>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: how to recover grub
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:25:39 +0300
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
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    > Hi,
    >
    > I have a machine in which i have two OS's, linux and xp. I need to =
    > reinstall xp caz its microsft.
    >
    > If i will reinstall windows i will lose my mbr and wont be getting the =
    > dual boot option anymore. I want to know how can i get grub back. I did =
    > it once before but i cant recall how i did it. Kindly let me know how to =
    > do it.
    >
    > Thanks in advance
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    > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a machine in which i have two =
    > OS's, linux=20
    > and xp. I need to reinstall xp caz its microsft.</FONT></DIV>
    > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If i will reinstall windows i will lose =
    > my mbr and=20
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    > get grub=20
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    > know=20
    > how to do it.</FONT></DIV>
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    >
    > Message: 12
    > Subject: Re: Web Monitor
    > From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
    > To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
    > Date: 26 Oct 2003 15:35:38 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 14:59, Patrick Nelson wrote:
    > > I need a website monitoring tool. Anyone know of anything good to run
    > > off a RH7.3 system?
    >
    > You haven't given us very much information. What exactly about the
    > website are you trying to monitor? What kind of agents do you prefer?
    > What kind of notifications do you prefer? Do you need something
    > extensible, that you can write your own modules/agents for? In what
    > language?
    >
    > For the money (free), you can't beat Nagios. It far outperforms
    > SiteScope many other commercial monitoring packages. It can take a bit
    > of time to configure, but it is NOT difficult. It's written in Perl, so
    > if you're a perl hacker, you'll feel right at home. And even if you're
    > not, the basic agents should suffice.
    >
    > Of course, if you just want something to monitor basic signs of life, it
    > would be trivial to write something in shell/perl/expect that would a)
    > ping the site or b) connect to 80 and perform a GET and c) evaluate the
    > output for accuracy.
    >
    > --
    > Jason Dixon, RHCE
    > DixonGroup Consulting
    > http://www.dixongroup.net
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 13
    > Subject: Re: how to recover grub
    > From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
    > To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
    > Date: 26 Oct 2003 15:37:08 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 15:25, Bilal Dar wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I have a machine in which i have two OS's, linux and xp. I need to
    > > reinstall xp caz its microsft.
    > >
    > > If i will reinstall windows i will lose my mbr and wont be getting the
    > > dual boot option anymore. I want to know how can i get grub back. I
    > > did it once before but i cant recall how i did it. Kindly let me know
    > > how to do it.
    >
    > man grub-install
    >
    > --
    > Jason Dixon, RHCE
    > DixonGroup Consulting
    > http://www.dixongroup.net
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 14
    > From: "Noel Collis" <noel_collis@hotmail.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Internet address lookup and ssh problem
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:45:32 -0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > I am having the following two problems:
    >
    > Could not look up internet address for hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.
    > This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.
    > It may be possible to correct the problem by adding
    > hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx to the file /etc/hosts.
    >
    > ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
    >
    > I resolve the first one by adding hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx to my hosts file as
    > suggested but I am wondering if this would cause my ssh login attempt to
    > fail. Can some assist me in solving both problems.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Noel
    >
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    >
    > Message: 15
    > From: "Julien MIONI" <jmioni@bhj-is.com>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: RE : how to recover grub
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:59:57 +0100
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
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    > Hi,
    > =20
    > Once XP installed, you can boot on RH CD typing 'lminux rescue', chroot =
    > to
    > your installed system and run Grub. That should work.
    > =20
    > Julien
    >
    > -----Message d'origine-----
    > De : redhat-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:redhat-list-admin@redhat.com] =
    > De
    > la part de Bilal Dar
    > Envoy=E9 : dimanche 26 octobre 2003 21:26
    > =C0 : redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Objet : how to recover grub
    >
    >
    > Hi,
    > =20
    > I have a machine in which i have two OS's, linux and xp. I need to =
    > reinstall
    > xp caz its microsft.
    > =20
    > If i will reinstall windows i will lose my mbr and wont be getting the =
    > dual
    > boot option anymore. I want to know how can i get grub back. I did it =
    > once
    > before but i cant recall how i did it. Kindly let me know how to do it.
    > =20
    > Thanks in advance
    >
    >
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    > size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    > <DIV><SPAN class=3D868295820-26102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
    >
    > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    > <DIV><SPAN class=3D868295820-26102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
    > size=3D2>Once=20
    > XP installed, you can boot on RH CD typing 'lminux rescue', chroot to =
    > your=20
    > installed system and run Grub. That should work.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    > <DIV><SPAN class=3D868295820-26102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
    >
    > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    > <DIV><SPAN class=3D868295820-26102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
    >
    > size=3D2>Julien</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    > <DIV></DIV>
    > <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Dfr dir=3Dltr =
    > align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
    > size=3D2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De&nbsp;:</B>=20
    > redhat-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:redhat-list-admin@redhat.com] =
    > <B>De la=20
    > part de</B> Bilal Dar<BR><B>Envoy=E9&nbsp;:</B> dimanche 26 octobre =
    > 2003=20
    > 21:26<BR><B>=C0&nbsp;:</B> =
    > redhat-list@redhat.com<BR><B>Objet&nbsp;:</B> how to=20
    > recover grub<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
    > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a machine in which i have two =
    > OS's, linux=20
    > and xp. I need to reinstall xp caz its microsft.</FONT></DIV>
    > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If i will reinstall windows i will =
    > lose my mbr=20
    > and wont be getting the dual boot option anymore. I want to know how =
    > can i get=20
    > grub back. I did it once before but i cant recall how i did it. Kindly =
    > let me=20
    > know how to do it.</FONT></DIV>
    > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks in=20
    > advance</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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    > Message: 16
    > From: "Harish Sabnani" <harish.sabnani@cyberhutoman.com>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
    > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:08:33 +0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Thanks for yr help, I tried this but and when I query the modem in KPPP I
    > get an error that the modem is busy!
    > I believe the real issue is in loading the appropirate module for USR
    > external modem?Any suggestions abt where will I find the module?Its
    > supposed to be PnP which means that the kernel loads the module when it
    > boots but in this case I dont see that. Pls advice, my understanding is
    > limited.
    >
    > Regards
    > Harish
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "fred smith" <fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:10 AM
    > Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 17
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:29:26 -0500
    > From: fred smith <fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    >
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    > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 01:08:33AM +0400, Harish Sabnani wrote:
    > > Thanks for yr help, I tried this but and when I query the modem in KPPP I
    > > get an error that the modem is busy!
    > > I believe the real issue is in loading the appropirate module for USR
    > > external modem?Any suggestions abt where will I find the module?Its
    > > suppo=
    >
    > sed
    >
    > > to be PnP which means that the kernel loads the module when it boots but
    > > =
    >
    > in
    >
    > > this case I dont see that. Pls advice, my understanding is limited.
    > >=20
    >
    > If it's just an ordinary serial modem (not USB, right?) there are no
    > special modules involved.
    >
    > if you know what serial port it's attached to, you might try verifying
    > that the port is really alive by using "setserial -g /dev/ttyS0" or ttyS1
    > or whatever the device actually is. That should report the properties
    > of the serial port, or some kind of error if it's not found or is having
    > problems of some sort.
    >
    > I don't know anything about KPPP so I can't help there. But,...
    > If the setserial hack seems to be good, you could try something like
    > this:
    >
    > echo ATDT1-234-567-8901 > /dev/modem
    >
    > using some phone number you know is safe to dial without waking up=20
    > someone who wouldn't appreciate it (!) and see if the modem dials,
    > or even if any of the lights on it blink.
    >
    > If so, then that implies that you can talk to the serial port and=20
    > thence the modem. If so, then the problem wiht KPPP is something
    > other than the device not existing.
    >
    > > Regards
    > > Harish
    > >=20
    > >=20
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "fred smith" <fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
    > > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:10 AM
    > > Subject: Re: USRobotics Modem Driver
    > >=20
    > >=20
    > >=20
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    > > unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@redhat.com?subject=3Dunsubscribe
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    > --=20
    > ---- Fred Smith -- fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ------------------------
    > -= ---
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    > The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth.=
    > =20
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    > Message: 18
    > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:55:07 +1000
    > From: "Peter B. West" <pbwest@powerup.com.au>
    > Organization: The Spanish Inquisition
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Can't create symbolic links in mounted vfat partition
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Marcus,
    >
    > RTM. 'man mount' will tell you that 'user' does not take an argument,
    > but specifies that any user should be able to mount the partition. To
    > set the UID of the files in the partition, use the 'uid=...' and
    > 'gid=...' arguments in fstab. You may have to use 'umask=777' (or 775)
    > instead of fmask and dmask. The manual states that fmask and dmask are
    > present since 4.5.43, which I assume is a kernel version. Others have
    > pointed out that Windows partitions do not support links.
    >
    > Peter
    >
    > Marcus Claesson wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I'm having problem doing certain things to my vfat (WinXP,FAT32)
    > > partition from RedHat 9.
    > >
    > > It's mounted like this
    > >
    > > /dev/hda5 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw,fmask=777,dmask=777,user=marcus)
    > >
    > > It looks like this:
    > >
    > > [marcus@miah marcus]$ ll /mnt/
    > > total 36
    > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 17 14:26 cdrom
    > > drwxrwxrwx 12 root root 32768 Jan 1 1970 windows
    > >
    > > I can write to it as root, and as another user I can read but not write
    > > to it,
    > > not even as 'marcus'.
    > >
    > > I think it has to do with the same thing as that I can't create links on
    > > this
    > > partition:
    > >
    > > [root@miah windows]# ln -s file.txt file_link
    > > ln: creating symbolic link `file_link' to `file.txt': Operation not
    > > permitted
    > >
    > > Does anyone out there know how I should mount this partition so these
    > > things
    > > will work. Really appreciate any help!
    > >
    > > Regards,
    > > Marcus
    >
    > --
    > Peter B. West <http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html>
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 19
    > From: Phil Savoie <psavoie1783@rogers.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com, "Bilal Dar" <bilal@it-pro.net>
    > Subject: Re: how to recover grub
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:37:14 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Sunday 26 October 2003 15:25, Bilal Dar wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I have a machine in which i have two OS's, linux and xp. I need to
    > > reinstall xp caz its microsft.
    > >
    > > If i will reinstall windows i will lose my mbr and wont be getting the
    >
    > dual
    >
    > > boot option anymore. I want to know how can i get grub back. I did it
    > > once before but i cant recall how i did it. Kindly let me know how to do
    > > it.
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance
    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > Assuming that you only have one harddrive installed, please do the
    > following:
    >
    > Boot into the system with the RedHat cd 1 of 3 and at the boot promtp type:
    >
    > linux rescue
    >
    > Follow and answer the prompts (skip CD check if asked). Eventually you
    > will
    >
    > be asked if it is ok to look for any RH distros on the drive. Answer yes.
    >
    > At the command prompt type:
    >
    > chroot /mnt/sysimage
    >
    > Once this is done, then type:
    >
    > grub-install /dev/hda (Again, assuming you only have one hard drive
    > installed)
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Phil Savoie
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 20
    > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:22:39 +1000
    > From: "Peter B. West" <pbwest@powerup.com.au>
    > Organization: The Spanish Inquisition
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Thoughts on Fedora
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Jeff,
    >
    > So what's your opinion of RH9, both for commercial and personal use. I
    > upgraded my 7.3 personal systems to 9, after having redhat installed on
    > at least one system since somewhere in the 4's, I think, and I have
    > never had so many things break on an upgrade before. A lot of my
    > problems have been to do with the font changes, and others with the move
    > to a default Unicode environment. There has been much wailing and
    > gnashing of teeth.
    >
    > Peter
    >
    > Jeff Lasman wrote:
    > > On Saturday 25 October 2003 00:01, Thomas Smith wrote:
    > >>Check out the links above. It appears that Red Hat is dumping their
    > >>OpenSource version of "Red Hat Linux" and renaming it Fedora and
    > >>stating that it's for "Developer or highly technical enthusiast using
    > >>Linux in non-critical computing environments".
    > >
    > > That's Red Hat's official opinion. In my opinion, Red Hat's opinion is
    > > based on their need and desire to sell their commercial product.
    > >
    > > You'll find a very different opinion on the Fedora list, especially in
    > > response to a thread I contributed to with the subject of "CNET News
    > > Article".
    > >
    > >>I'd like to get some opinions regarding Fedora and its viability in a
    > >>production environment. It sounds to me that Red Hat is simply using
    > >>Fedora as a test bed and developer release for its commercial-only
    > >>Red Hat Linux offerings.
    > >
    > > While I have real concerns about using Fedora in commercial
    > > applications, I believe they may just be overcome in time. In the
    > > meantime, the Fedora Legacy group has committed to maintaining RHL 7.3
    > > into the future, and that's what I'm sticking with for now.
    > >
    > > Jeff
    >
    > --
    > Peter B. West <http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html>
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 21
    > From: Justin Banks <justinb@constantdata.com>
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:36:50 -0600
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Thoughts on Fedora
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Peter B. West wrote
    >
    > > Jeff,
    > >
    > > So what's your opinion of RH9, both for commercial and personal use. I
    > > upgraded my 7.3 personal systems to 9, after having redhat installed on
    > > at least one system since somewhere in the 4's, I think, and I have
    > > never had so many things break on an upgrade before. A lot of my
    > > problems have been to do with the font changes, and others with the move
    > > to a default Unicode environment. There has been much wailing and
    > > gnashing of teeth.
    >
    > I'll chime in here, just because I feel strongly about this. RH9 broke so
    > many things it was a disgrace. As near as I can tell, NPTL wasn't even
    > integration tested, what with the number of apps that broke. Really, it's
    > *still* broken, so much so that I've got LD_ASSUME_KERNEL sprinkled all
    > over the place, at least on the boxes that haven't been taken back to RH8.
    >
    > -justinb
    >
    > --
    > Justin Banks
    > Constant Data, Inc.
    > http://www.constantdata.com
    >
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    >
    > Message: 22
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:51:33 -0600
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz@simpaticus.com>
    > Subject: Re: Thoughts on Fedora
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > At 18:36 10/26/2003, Justin Banks wrote:
    > >Peter B. West wrote
    > >
    > > > So what's your opinion of RH9, both for commercial and personal use. I
    > > > upgraded my 7.3 personal systems to 9 [...] and I have
    > > > never had so many things break on an upgrade before.
    > >
    > >I'll chime in here, just because I feel strongly about this. RH9 broke so
    > >many things it was a disgrace.
    >
    > For the sake of counterpoint and playing devil's advocate, I have 3
    > workstations, 2 notebooks, and about 10 servers on RH9. All were clean
    > installs, not upgrades. A variety of software is run, all installed using
    > RPM and obtained either from Red Hat, FreshRPMS, Fedora Project, or
    > Freshmeat/Sourceforge. Not one single machine has given me a single
    > minute's trouble since they were installed and put online (pretty much
    > right after 9 came out).
    >
    > I'm happily running my home and my small webhosting business as well as
    > several firewall/gateway/netserver boxen on 9, and making money off them. I
    > also do a fair bit of Q&A for friends who run Red Hat, and so far none of
    > them have complained about anything wrong either. Sorry you two had
    > problems (and I am aware that yes, there were some problems with 9) but,
    > your mileage may vary!
    >
    >
    > --
    > Rodolfo J. Paiz
    > rpaiz@simpaticus.com
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 23
    > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:33:21 +1000
    > From: "Peter B. West" <pbwest@powerup.com.au>
    > Organization: The Spanish Inquisition
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Thoughts on Fedora
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
    > > At 18:36 10/26/2003, Justin Banks wrote:
    > >> Peter B. West wrote
    > >>
    > >> > So what's your opinion of RH9, both for commercial and personal use.
    > >> > I upgraded my 7.3 personal systems to 9 [...] and I have
    > >> > never had so many things break on an upgrade before.
    > >>
    > >> I'll chime in here, just because I feel strongly about this. RH9 broke
    > >> so many things it was a disgrace.
    > >
    > > For the sake of counterpoint and playing devil's advocate, I have 3
    > > workstations, 2 notebooks, and about 10 servers on RH9. All were clean
    > > installs, not upgrades. A variety of software is run, all installed
    > > using RPM and obtained either from Red Hat, FreshRPMS, Fedora Project,
    > > or Freshmeat/Sourceforge. Not one single machine has given me a single
    > > minute's trouble since they were installed and put online (pretty much
    > > right after 9 came out).
    > >
    > > I'm happily running my home and my small webhosting business as well as
    > > several firewall/gateway/netserver boxen on 9, and making money off
    > > them. I also do a fair bit of Q&A for friends who run Red Hat, and so
    > > far none of them have complained about anything wrong either. Sorry you
    > > two had problems (and I am aware that yes, there were some problems with
    > > 9) but, your mileage may vary!
    >
    > One of mine was an upgrade, one a clean install, onto which I ported
    > much that I had accumulated over the years. I have always had trouble
    > wit upgrades, because so much of what I have customized is either blown
    > away, or left intact but semi- or non-workable. I always allowed a day
    > after an upgrade to get things back to normal. 9 seriously broke
    > backward compatibility, and I am still finding things that don't work
    > the same way months later. Not a problem for new users, but critical
    > for upgraders. There was nothing that I saw in the installation
    > procedures that pointed me to warnings about likely problems in upgrade
    > situations, and the workarounds.
    >
    > This list is the best resource I have found to date.
    >
    > Peter
    > --
    > Peter B. West <http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html>
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 24
    > From: Justin Banks <justinb@constantdata.com>
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:14:21 -0600
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Thoughts on Fedora
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote
    >
    > > I'm happily running my home and my small webhosting business as well as
    > > several firewall/gateway/netserver boxen on 9, and making money off them.
    >
    > I
    >
    > > also do a fair bit of Q&A for friends who run Red Hat, and so far none of
    > > them have complained about anything wrong either. Sorry you two had
    > > problems (and I am aware that yes, there were some problems with 9) but,
    > > your mileage may vary!
    >
    > I advise anyone running any multithreaded applications to stay away from
    > RH9.
    >
    > -justinb
    >
    > --
    > Justin Banks
    > Constant Data, Inc.
    > http://www.constantdata.com
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 25
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:17:21 -0800 (PST)
    > From: Keith Morse <kgmorse@mpcu.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Internet address lookup and ssh problem
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Noel Collis wrote:
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > I am having the following two problems:
    > >
    > > Could not look up internet address for hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.
    > > This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.
    > > It may be possible to correct the problem by adding
    > > hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx to the file /etc/hosts.
    > >
    > > ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
    >
    > In my experience, this message is due to remote host having tcp wrappers
    > enabled for sshd. I'd check /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny and any
    > entries in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.
    >
    > > I resolve the first one by adding hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx to my hosts file as
    > > suggested but I am wondering if this would cause my ssh login attempt to
    > > fail. Can some assist me in solving both problems.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Noel
    > >
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    > Message: 26
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:36:38 -0800 (PST)
    > From: Keith Morse <kgmorse@mpcu.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Setting up userquota question
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Jason Williams wrote:
    > > Next, I tried to run quotacheck -avug and received this:
    > >
    > > $ quotacheck -avug
    > > quotacheck: Cannot get quotafile name for /dev/sda6
    > >
    > >
    > > After tinkering a bit, I did this:
    > >
    > > quotacheck -acvu ( dont need group quotas)
    > >
    > > and this worked. It created the file aquota.user in /home
    > >
    > > So I was curious if the reason why it did not work the first time was
    > > becuase I did not specify the -c flag?
    > >
    > > Lastly, i'd like to learn more about using quotas. Any suggested further
    > > readings?
    >
    > Unfortunately no, just wanted to say I had similar problems setting up
    > quota. The first host I did, no matter what I couldn't get quotacheck to
    > work. Ended up having to run a fsck on the partition even though it
    > wasn't due and fsck did not find any problems. But after the fsck,
    > quotacheck worked like a charm. Call me quota puzzled too.
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 27
    > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:21:32
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > From: Thierry ITTY <thierry.itty@besancon.org>
    > Subject: Re: Can I boot from a USB Disk?
    > Cc: clemens@dwf.com
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hello
    >
    > sure you didn't find anything on it...
    > I'm trying to do that since a while (2 monthes) without success.
    > I even posted several messages on this list, without any answer.
    > whenever you happen to get it sucessfull, please let me know !!!
    >
    > btw
    > - you can install rh9 on an usb disk without touching the internal disks,
    > no problem. build the standard boot diskette and the block device driver
    > diskette from the install cd, boot on the former in expert mode, insert the
    > latter when asked, this will give you access to the usb drive, then install
    > as usually
    > - you _should_ be able to boot on the usb disk without problem _if_ your
    > bios provides this feature
    > - if it doesn't, then you _need_ a special boot diskette with usb/scsi
    > drivers. here's the pain for me : i _cannot_ build a working diskette.
    > whatever things I try, boot always ends up in kernel panic, unable to mount
    > root fs.
    > - there's a special distro (stiix, slackware based) said to be able to boot
    > from an usb disk (with or without a diskette), maybe I (you ?) should try
    > and see how they did manage it, and try and apply this to rh9
    >
    > hth
    >
    > A 21:20 24/10/2003 -0600, vous avez ecrit :
    > >I havent seen this mentioned (but I havent been watching
    > >the list that carefully either), but I have a laptop that
    > >I would like to put a new distribution of RH9 on, and since
    > >the disk is small,
    > >Im wondering if I can boot from an attached USB Disk?
    > >
    > >If not, can I put the kernel on the ATA drive, and then
    > >mount a USB /root?
    > >
    > >I dont really want to buy a new disk for the laptop, but I
    > >do have a USB disk that has plenty of room on it...
    > >
    > >Guess Ill find out this weekend, but any problems/experiences
    > >any of you have had would be appreciated.
    > >--
    > > Reg.Clemens
    > > reg@dwf.com
    > >
    > >
    > >
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    > Message: 28
    > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:23:24 +0100 (CET)
    > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manuel=20Ar=F3stegui=20Ramirez?= <manuaroste@yahoo.es>
    > Subject: Re: Internet address lookup and ssh problem
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > [root@Linux root]# nslookup
    > Note: nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from
    > future releases.
    > Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead.
    > Run nslookup with
    > the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from
    > appearing.
    >
    > > type=any
    >
    > Server: 2-------
    > Address: 2-------
    >
    > ** server can't find type=any: NXDOMAIN
    >
    > > yahoo.com
    >
    > Server: 213.172.33.34
    > Address: 213.172.33.34#53
    >
    > Non-authoritative answer:
    > Name: yahoo.com
    > Address: 66.218.71.198
    >
    >
    >
    > --- Keith Morse <kgmorse@mpcu.com> escribio: > On
    >
    > Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Noel Collis wrote:
    > > > Hello,
    > > >
    > > > I am having the following two problems:
    > > >
    > > > Could not look up internet address for
    > >
    > > hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.
    > >
    > > > This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.
    > > > It may be possible to correct the problem by
    > >
    > > adding
    > >
    > > > hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx to the file /etc/hosts.
    > > >
    > > > ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by
    > >
    > > remote host
    > >
    > > In my experience, this message is due to remote host
    > > having tcp wrappers
    > > enabled for sshd. I'd check /etc/hosts.allow
    > > /etc/hosts.deny and any
    > > entries in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.
    > >
    > > > I resolve the first one by adding hxxx-xxx-xxx-xxx
    > >
    > > to my hosts file as
    > >
    > > > suggested but I am wondering if this would cause
    > >
    > > my ssh login attempt to
    > >
    > > > fail. Can some assist me in solving both problems.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks,
    > > > Noel
    >
    > _________________________________________________________________
    >
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    > >
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    > Message: 29
    > From: Abhijit Das <ADas@yodlee.com>
    > To: "'redhat-list@redhat.com'" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: RE: redhat-list digest, Vol 1 #8436 - 23 msgs
    > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:45:03 +0530
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hi Hugh
    >
    > Any idea why i am getting this err ? any other things to check ?
    > i am unable to crontab -l or crontab -e as user root. i am getting the same
    > err msg.
    > i am however able to do crontab -u -e xxx where xxx is my other user.
    > doing a crontab -l or crontab -e as my other user works fine. rest what i
    > did to check cron i have mentioned in my earlier email
    >
    > anybody - any suggestions please
    >
    > thx
    > Abhijit
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
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    > Today's Topics:
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    > 1. RE: Thoughts on Fedora (Wade Chandler)
    > 2. iTunes inside of VMWare inside of Windows (Roberto Dohnert)
    > 3. UPDATE: iTunes inside of VMWare inside of Windows -- Internal CDRW
    > (Roberto Dohnert)
    > 4. RE: usb memory key (Mohamed Kerbachi)
    > 5. fsck erase files at startup ? (Mohamed Kerbachi)
    > 6. Re: rotate logs when they reach a certain size (Krishna Shekhar)
    > 7. Re: Transfering files in SSH (aT)
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    > 10. Re: Network Problem-solved..Now another problem (Bilal Dar)
    > 11. RE: Question on Crontab; unable to edit/list (Hugh E Cruickshank)
    > 12. Question bout logrotate (cajun)
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    > 14. [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode?
    > (Mike Pelley)
    > 15. Re: Question bout logrotate (cajun)
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    > Message: 1
    > From: "Wade Chandler" <wchandler@redesetgrow.com>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: RE: Thoughts on Fedora
    > Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:55:09 -0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > I get a little biased in these types of discussions. I'm a programmer
    > and a system geek, so I say if you are affected by something jump in and
    > help out. It's there, it's free, it's not that hard, and even if you
    > can't program, you can learn some basics and help a programmer out.
    > Overall it will help anyone understand their system better (not just the
    > things they see, but the whole system, computer and OS inside and out).
    >
    >
    > I guess I see it like this. We all obviously use Linux, and we all
    > appear to use Red Hat. So, to me, that means we have some
    > responsibility in that community considering the costs involved for many
    > of us. I find that I can be more productive on a Linux machine than I
    > can on my Windows (with the proper tools) so I'm all about making it
    > friendly for everyone and geeky for anyone who wants it to be. I want
    > to be able to develop applications for Linux, and be able to think about
    > making that application on Windows, instead of feel like I have to. Is
    > that sometime off in the future...yes I'd say so. But, I feel this is
    > better accomplished through modules and add-ons. I have a lot of things
    > I would like to do here, and I think Fedora is great(...now if I can
    > just find time..it always seems to out run me).
    >
    > On a more general note of where the question was going. I think users
    > and testers and programmers can all help push fixes. I also think it
    > comes down to the way anyone is approached or approaches someone. We
    > all need to keep in mind that unless you are talking to someone from Red
    > Hat they are not getting paid to work on this stuff. They do it for
    > their enjoyment. Which believe it or not has pushed Linux itself
    > www.kernel.org good ol' Linus (which I know we all know). But, I think
    > keeping that all in mind makes us ask questions with a different tone.
    > Maybe we don't have dollars here and there to push in someones face, but
    > simple gestures are really all it takes. Developers want their work to
    > be good, so if there is a problem most are more than happy to fix it.
    >
    > I think Red Hat will have more than enough developers working on Fedora
    > to guide these groups. Just like the kernel every project needs
    > guidance. Each piece needs someone who can control the flow well. I
    > think these folks will come from RH in most cases (according to what I
    > read on the Fedora site). Whether they are the best people for the job
    > or not will only be decided in time, and if they are not, then someone
    > will have to make some good decisions. But, I still believe we have to
    > keep in mind that RH states on the Fedora web site that their commercial
    > software will be based on Fedora. This means they have an interest in
    > it being good stable software. Fedora will also have a release cycle.
    > So, use releases if you are burdened by untested code (I will only use
    > release versions unless testing).
    >
    > I see Fedora as a way to shift some responsibility. For instance, I use
    > RH9. I paid absolutely nothing for it. I love it more than any of my
    > other OS. I like it better than AIX, Solaris, or XP. I realize RH has
    > put an investment into the applications and packaging. I can't thank
    > them enough. But, at the same time, I understand that a company can't
    > front all the costs for everything, and I don't expect them to.
    >
    > Red Hat has employees, and those employees have families to feed.
    > Forget the stock holders for a moment. Those same employees are going
    > to be working on Fedora. I imagine many of them will be spending most
    > of their time working on Fedora, and the rest the value adds, commercial
    > things, and tech support. Their pay check should be incentive for them
    > to perform.
    >
    > Enter users like myself who pay nothing most of the time when dealing
    > with Linux. I don't feel like I should want to point many fingers if
    > I'm not willing to pitch in a bit. That is where I think the community
    > comes into play. Are we willing to say we like Red Hat, or do we start
    > using SuSE, Debian, or Slackware? I believe Red Hat has done a great
    > job, and with the exception of SuSE who I put on the same level as RH, I
    > believe RH is the best Distro available. So, I am willing to pitch in
    > when I can: answer a question here or there, look at some code if I need
    > to, update it and create a patch if I need to (for things I use
    > mainly...so I'm selfish..:-( bad quality I'd say, but I only have so
    > much time).
    >
    > Anyways, to use my favorite analogy to Fedora, Netbeans. Netbeans is
    > sponsered by Sun Microsystems. It is also a free open source product.
    > I use it day in and day out to write Java software. I think it is one
    > of the best IDEs available. I like tooo many things about it to
    > mention. I can't say anything bad about it, though some things I wish
    > could be different. But, all in all, compare it to anything else, it
    > still shines. Compare it to Jbuilder (rather costly). I would use
    > Netbeans any day. Compare it to Eclipse..I think it runs circles around
    > it (my own opinion). The only thing I think Jbuilder has better deals
    > with the files Netbeans uses for it's GUI designer, but that is a small
    > thing, and it can eventually be worked out.
    >
    > Netbeans rolls out patches in a very timely manner. You will also
    > notice that many of the developers have .... Sun.com at the end of their
    > emails. This means they are a paid programmer. Which is a good thing.
    > This means some where there is someone putting together a little upfront
    > design effort to make things role a little smoother (generally
    > speaking). But, don't let that fool you about open source projects
    > without corperate backers. Though, corporate backing is good because it
    > means there is someone who is devoting time to working on the project,
    > and they are being paid to do it. Just to say it, Apache is a
    > non-profit, but you will find corporations using it, and some
    > contributing handsomely.
    >
    > I believe we will see patches flying out of Fedora. I may be wrong, but
    > the only reason I can imagine them not doing so will be because of some
    > sick restrictions Red Hat could lay on the projects. I don't see that
    > happening, but if it did, that would be a reason for slow response time.
    > In general open source projects fix bugs faster than commercial ones, or
    > this has been my experience rather. It will all depend on the model
    > used. Some company's like Seapine software are an exception to this
    > rule. They produce a source control system called Surround which I
    > believe is better than any other. They have fixed bugs and released
    > upgrades rather rapidly. We have been beta testers at different times
    > for them. You'd have to check it out to see what I mean. Clients on
    > Mac, Windows, and Linux. Side tracked....but it is good.
    >
    > Also, something else to keep in mind. Most of the applications we use
    > on Linux are open source. Which means, they have a home of their own.
    > Patches are usually going to depend on those developers anyways. So,
    > probably an important thing to remember is that Fedora projects will
    > include a lot of code reviewing. i.e. OpenSSH will be reviewed by
    > developers responsible for the section that package fits into, then
    > there will be collaboration with the actual OpenSSH project. You can
    > definitely expect this to be the case. Code review and collaboration
    > will catch more bugs than you can imagine. This is a plus.
    >
    > Anyways, those are a bunch of my jumbled thoughts. I hope this is
    > coherent enough for the debate. It is 11:39PM US EST at the moment in
    > good ol'NC. :-D. I won't assume too much however until I have a
    > milestone to throw FUD against, so in all fairness....I say we wait on a
    > release and give it a while. :-)
    >
    > Wade
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: redhat-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:redhat-list-admin@redhat.com]
    > On Behalf Of Rodolfo J. Paiz
    > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 10:40 PM
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: RE: Thoughts on Fedora
    >
    > At 20:15 10/25/2003, you wrote:
    > >I don't agree with the notion that some how Fedora is going to be any
    > >less stable than the "free" RH9 many use on this list now.
    >
    > Neither do I. However, to give you something to think about, the "other"
    >
    > argument against Fedora according to some people is that you cannot be
    > sure
    > that "the community" will roll out patches and security updates in a
    > timely
    > fashion. That is a valid concern, since this early in the game we do not
    >
    > yet know how that will be done and speculation is to be expected.
    >
    > What thoughts would you have on that subject? (Wade or anyone else.)
    >
    >
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    > Message: 2
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:36:31 -0400
    > From: Roberto Dohnert <webwarrior@gnu-darwin.org>
    > To: trilug@trilug.org
    > CC: suse-linux-e@suse.com, fedora-list@redhat.com, redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: iTunes inside of VMWare inside of Windows
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > I have recieved numerous e-mails about this issue and I thought I would
    > make it known to any and all interested parties since I am the
    > proclaimed expert of Windows inside of VMWare. Yes, the new iTunes can
    > be run inside of Windows inside of VMWare but, (yes you knew a but was
    > coming) You cannot run visualizations because VMWare drivers do not
    > support OpenGL, Do not allocate less than 256mb of RAM for the guest OS,
    > I highly reccomend upgrading to VMWare 4.0.5 since memory management was
    > greatly improved in that version. If you wish to use it inside of
    > VMWare 4.0.0 or below, YOU CANNOT BE DOING ANYTHING IN LINUX. The Apple
    > Music Store works, you can access the store and download and do what you
    > want. If you wish to make custom CD's on an internal CD-RW you are out
    > of luck I think, I have to do some more testing with mine, but upon
    > inital testing it didnt work. but with External burners it works fine,
    > unload the USB mass storage Modules in Linux before you can mount the
    > external burner in the guest OS. If you are going to use the iPod with
    > VMWare make sure it is not mounted in Linux otherwise VMWare refuses to
    > see it
    >
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    >
    > http://www.geocities.com/kane121975/
    >
    > I have many specific SuSE Linux related how-tos and much more helpful
    > information
    >
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    > Message: 3
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:15:41 -0500
    > From: Roberto Dohnert <webwarrior@gnu-darwin.org>
    > To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list <trilug@trilug.org>
    > CC: suse-linux-e@suse.com, redhat-list@redhat.com, fedora-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: UPDATE: iTunes inside of VMWare inside of Windows -- Internal CDRW
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Did not take me long at all, Yes you can do a burn using an Internal
    > CD-RW. When you go to add the device you cannot do it by its hd label,
    > you have to give VMWare the serial emulation, for Example under SUSE
    > Linux 9 my serial emulation label is /dev/sr1. That is the information
    > that needs to be provided
    >
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    >
    > http://www.geocities.com/kane121975/
    >
    > I have many specific SuSE Linux related how-tos and much more helpful
    > information
    >
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    > Message: 4
    > Subject: RE: usb memory key
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:08:37 +0100
    > From: "Mohamed Kerbachi" <Mohamed.Kerbachi@OTALGERIE.com>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > I have used many memory flash with RedHat 9.0 with nno problem just issue
    > "tail -f /var/log/message" and plug the usb flash you will se a message
    >
    > and mount the drive like this:
    > mkdir /mnt/flash
    > mount -t vfat /dev/What_You_See_in_LOG_MESSGAES /mnt/flash
    >
    > hope that help ;)
    >
    > -----Message d'origine-----
    > De : Gordon Messmer [mailto:yinyang@eburg.com]
    > Envoye : dimanche 26 octobre 2003 00:07
    > A : redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Objet : Re: usb memory key
    >
    > William Burgos wrote:
    > > I can I mount a usb memory key?
    > >
    > > Do I need some drivers or are these already in RH9
    >
    > The drivers you need are included in the kernel in RH9. You've been
    > advised to mount /dev/sda1, but most of the sticks I've seen don't have
    > partitions.
    >
    > When you plug the memory stick in, log in as root and use
    > 'fdisk -l /dev/sda' to look at the partition table. If it looks like
    > nonsense (you'll know what I mean), then your memory stick doesn't have
    > partitions, and you should mount /dev/sda.
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 5
    > Subject: fsck erase files at startup ?
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:29:13 +0100
    > From: "Mohamed Kerbachi" <Mohamed.Kerbachi@OTALGERIE.com>
    > To: "RedHat mailling list (E-mail)" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > A server that i can admin reboot very often (all partition
    > are ext2) so an fsck is always made. Now i see some log files are erased
    > and a new ones are created by OS???!!! is it possible that fsck erase files
    > ??
    >
    > thx
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 6
    > From: "Krishna Shekhar" <krishna.shekhar@in.spectranet.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: rotate logs when they reach a certain size
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:44:33 +0530
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > Better use logrotate. Edit the configuration files in
    > /etc/logrotate.conf and /etc/logrotate.d/
    >
    > regards,
    > Krishna, RHCE
    > Network/Systems Engineer
    > Spectranet
    > http://www.spectranet.com
    >
    > http://www.krisindigitalage.com
    > Krishna's homepage on the Internet!!
    >
    > Keith R Wood writes:
    > > find DIRECTORYNAME -size XX -type f -exec rm -f {} ";"
    > >
    > > The above command will search starting in the directory DIRECTORYNAME
    > > (and below) and find all files that are of size XX and delete them.
    > >
    > > This command could easily be put in a crontab file.
    > >
    > > XX is in 512 byte blocks by default. If c follows XX then the units will
    > > be bytes, if k follows XX then the units would be kilobytes.
    > >
    > > Hope this helps.
    > >
    > > krw
    > >
    > > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 12:13, Genti Hila wrote:
    > >> The cron jobs and logrotate seem to manipulate logs in a time basis,
    > >> but
    >
    > i
    >
    > >> was trying to figure out a way how to make the logs delete when they get
    >
    > big
    >
    > >> to a certain size and not in a daily or weekly or whatever time basis.
    > >>
    > >> Does anybody know how to do that in Redhat 9 ?
    > >>
    > >> Genti
    > >
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    > Message: 7
    > From: aT <atif@bayt.com>
    > Organization: Bayt.com
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Transfering files in SSH
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:48:50 +0400
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > did u try scp ??
    > It comes wit ssh .
    >
    > On Friday 24 October 2003 09:28, Christopher Lyon wrote:
    > > You can also give rsync a try
    > >
    > >
    > > rsync -e ssh .........
    > >
    > >
    > > man rsync
    > >
    > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > From: Donald Tyler [mailto:dtyler@frazerbilt.com]
    > > > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:56 AM
    > > > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > > > Subject: Transfering files in SSH
    > > >
    > > > Hi,
    > > >
    > > > I finally managed to get my firewall server up (Thanks to everyone on
    > > > the list who helped).
    > > >
    > > > I want to be able to administer the server remotely. But the only
    > > > problem I have is that I don't know how to transfer files from my
    > > > workstation to the server via SSH. Can anyone point me in the
    > >
    > > direction
    > >
    > > > of some info?
    > > >
    > > > Thanks.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Donald
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
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    > Message: 8
    > From: Abhijit Das <ADas@yodlee.com>
    > To: "'redhat-list@redhat.com'" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Question on Crontab; unable to edit/list
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:48:03 +0530
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hi
    >
    > my linux kernel is 2.2.20
    > i am trying to edit/list crontab [i also tried crontab -e -u root]
    > but i am getting this err msg:
    > You (root) are not allowed to use this program (crontab)
    > See crontab(1) for more information
    >
    > i checked /etc/cron.allow root and my other users are listed [fyi i am able
    > to edit/list crontab with my other users]
    > there is no cron.deny file
    >
    > i checked /var/spool/cron and root is listed there. i can do a more root to
    > see my crontab entries.
    > i checked the crontab file under /usr/bin , nobody has tampered with the
    > permissions or setuid bit.
    >
    > what else can cause this err msg to come ?
    >
    > can anybody help me please
    >
    > thx
    > Abhijit
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 9
    > From: Abhijit Das <ADas@yodlee.com>
    > To: "'redhat-list@redhat.com'" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Question on Crontab; unable to edit/list
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:08:54 +0530
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > my linux kernel is 2.2.20
    > > i am trying to edit/list crontab [i also tried crontab -e -u root]
    > > but i am getting this err msg:
    > > You (root) are not allowed to use this program (crontab)
    > > See crontab(1) for more information
    > >
    > > i checked /etc/cron.allow root and my other users are listed [fyi i am
    > > able to edit/list crontab with my other users]
    > > there is no cron.deny file
    > >
    > > i checked /var/spool/cron and root is listed there. i can do a more root
    > > to see my crontab entries.
    > > i checked the crontab file under /usr/bin , nobody has tampered with the
    > > permissions or setuid bit.
    > >
    > > what else can cause this err msg to come ?
    > >
    > > can anybody help me please
    > >
    > > thx
    > > Abhijit
    >
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    >
    > Message: 10
    > From: "Bilal Dar" <bilal@it-pro.net>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Re: Network Problem-solved..Now another problem
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:12:18 +0300
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I had the same problem once ... just edit /etc/sysconfig/network
    >
    > Bilal.
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 11
    > From: "Hugh E Cruickshank" <hugh@forsoft.com>
    > To: <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: RE: Question on Crontab; unable to edit/list
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 04:49:32 -0800
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hi Abhijit:
    >
    > The -u param is for use by the root user to access other user's
    > crontab files (the manpage say "privilege user"). You should be
    > able to do "crontab -e" for any user (including root) to edit
    > their own crontab file and "crontab -e -u xxx" for root to edit
    > user xxx's crontab file.
    >
    > HTH
    >
    > Regards, Hugh
    >
    > --
    > Hugh E Cruickshank, Forward Software, www.forward-software.com
    >
    > From: Abhijit Das Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 02:18
    >
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > my linux kernel is 2.2.20
    > > i am trying to edit/list crontab [i also tried crontab -e -u root]
    > > but i am getting this err msg:
    > > You (root) are not allowed to use this program (crontab)
    > > See crontab(1) for more information
    > >
    > > i checked /etc/cron.allow root and my other users are listed [fyi
    > > i am able
    > > to edit/list crontab with my other users]
    > > there is no cron.deny file
    > >
    > > i checked /var/spool/cron and root is listed there. i can do a
    > > more root to
    > > see my crontab entries.
    > > i checked the crontab file under /usr/bin , nobody has tampered with the
    > > permissions or setuid bit.
    > >
    > > what else can cause this err msg to come ?
    > >
    > > can anybody help me please
    > >
    > > thx
    > > Abhijit
    >
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    >
    > Message: 12
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:10:56 -0600
    > From: cajun <cajunlee@alltel.net>
    > To: RedHat-List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: Question bout logrotate
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Hi all,
    >
    > One quick question bout logrotate, if someone could turn the light on
    > for me I would be greatly in your debt. In the example of logrotate
    > they use the command killall. Are they stopping the link between the
    > log file and the process at this point? The reason I am asking, I have
    > a couple of logs that I want to add and was wondering if this is necessary?
    >
    > Thanks for making this clearer!!!!
    >
    > Lee Perez
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 13
    > Subject: Re: Question bout logrotate
    > From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
    > To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
    > Date: 26 Oct 2003 10:22:10 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 10:10, cajun wrote:
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > One quick question bout logrotate, if someone could turn the light on
    > > for me I would be greatly in your debt. In the example of logrotate
    > > they use the command killall. Are they stopping the link between the
    > > log file and the process at this point? The reason I am asking, I have
    > > a couple of logs that I want to add and was wondering if this is
    >
    > necessary?
    >
    > I'm not sure what version of RH you're using, but RH9's logrotate
    > scripts use kill (on my box). Either way, yes, a kill/killall -HUP
    > (interrupt signal) is used to stop the process (closing the write on the
    > old logfile), and start the process (opening the write on the new
    > logfile).
    >
    > View the killall manpage to understand how it's different from kill.
    >
    > --
    > Jason Dixon, RHCE
    > DixonGroup Consulting
    > http://www.dixongroup.net
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 14
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:56:28 -0330
    > From: Mike Pelley <mike@pelleys.com>
    > To: redhat-list <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode?
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Sorry for the OT post - I'm in a time crunch and need a quick-and-dirty
    > reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode. Basically, I
    > need to have the reference for http://www.foo.com go through to the
    > reverse proxy to the internal web server. The internal server is using
    > virtual hosts as well.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > Mike
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 15
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:32:54 -0600
    > From: cajun <cajunlee@alltel.net>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: Question bout logrotate
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Jason Dixon wrote:
    > (snip)
    >
    > >I'm not sure what version of RH you're using, but RH9's logrotate
    > >scripts use kill (on my box). Either way, yes, a kill/killall -HUP
    > >(interrupt signal) is used to stop the process (closing the write on the
    > >old logfile), and start the process (opening the write on the new
    > >logfile).
    > >
    > >View the killall manpage to understand how it's different from kill.
    >
    > Thanks Jason and sorry bout that, I forgot to say that I am running RH9.
    > I have to remember to start putting that in all the questions that I
    > ask. That is what I thought that meant, but wanted to make sure. I'm
    > still learning!!
    >
    > Thanks again.
    >
    > Lee Perez
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 16
    > Subject: Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy
    > mode?
    > From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
    > To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
    > Date: 26 Oct 2003 10:34:55 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 10:26, Mike Pelley wrote:
    > > Sorry for the OT post - I'm in a time crunch and need a quick-and-dirty
    > > reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode. Basically, I
    > > need to have the reference for http://www.foo.com go through to the
    > > reverse proxy to the internal web server. The internal server is using
    > > virtual hosts as well.
    >
    > You should be able to pull what you need out of this:
    > http://www.cafesoft.com/products/cams/docs/webagent/ApacheReverseProxy.html
    >
    > HTH.
    >
    > --
    > Jason Dixon, RHCE
    > DixonGroup Consulting
    > http://www.dixongroup.net
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 17
    > From: Jason Staudenmayer <jasons@NJAQUARIUM.ORG>
    > To: "'redhat-list@redhat.com'" <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Subject: RE: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mo
    > de?
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:31:01 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Can you say "port forward"
    > The most recommended way to set that would be with iptables rule and not
    > with apache.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Mike Pelley [mailto:mike@pelleys.com]
    > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:26 AM
    > To: redhat-list
    > Subject: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode?
    >
    >
    > Sorry for the OT post - I'm in a time crunch and need a quick-and-dirty
    > reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode. Basically, I
    > need to have the reference for http://www.foo.com go through to the
    > reverse proxy to the internal web server. The internal server is using
    > virtual hosts as well.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > Mike
    >
    >
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    > Message: 18
    > Subject: RE: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mo
    > de?
    > From: Jason Dixon <jason@dixongroup.net>
    > To: Red Hat Mailing List <redhat-list@redhat.com>
    > Organization: DixonGroup Consulting
    > Date: 26 Oct 2003 10:42:54 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 10:31, Jason Staudenmayer wrote:
    > > Can you say "port forward"
    > > The most recommended way to set that would be with iptables rule and not
    > > with apache.
    >
    > Not necessarily. If you need to load-balance and/or distribute
    > different sites to different internal servers, an application proxy is
    > exactly the ticket. He didn't specify whether he was redirecting ALL
    > http traffic or simply this domain.
    >
    > --
    > Jason Dixon, RHCE
    > DixonGroup Consulting
    > http://www.dixongroup.net
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    > Message: 19
    > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:15:44 -0330
    > From: Mike Pelley <mike@pelleys.com>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Subject: Re: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mo
    > de?
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Actually, we're doing this already. We port forward TCP 80 to the
    > internal web server. However, this is an IIS server and the owner has a
    > lack of confidence in IIS security (I wonder why ;-) So, he'd like to
    > put an Apache server in a DMZ and then have it forward requests to the
    > internal server. That way, he can still do his ASP "thing" but have
    > Apache keeping direct access away.
    >
    > Jason Staudenmayer wrote:
    > >Can you say "port forward"
    > >The most recommended way to set that would be with iptables rule and not
    > >with apache.
    > >
    > >-----Original Message-----
    >
    > From: Mike Pelley [mailto:mike@pelleys.com]
    >
    > >Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:26 AM
    > >To: redhat-list
    > >Subject: [OT] Good reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode?
    > >
    > >
    > >Sorry for the OT post - I'm in a time crunch and need a quick-and-dirty
    > >reference for setting up Apache in reverse proxy mode. Basically, I
    > >need to have the reference for http://www.foo.com go through to the
    > >reverse proxy to the internal web server. The internal server is using
    > >virtual hosts as well.
    > >
    > >Thanks!
    > >
    > >Mike
    >
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    > Message: 30
    > Subject: Tips on re-installing and restoring on RedHat 9
    > From: Jim Macdonald <jimmmac@comcast.net>
    > To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:00:29 -0500
    > Reply-To: redhat-list@redhat.com
    >
    > Good morning
    >
    > I am planning to re-install RedHat 9 to get rid of a lot of junk I have
    > accumulated over time. Open Office and Mozilla should be no problem. I
    > have already posted to the Ximian Evolution list and talked to
    > Moneydance technical support. I just don't want to miss anything. I
    > already have my entire system backed up to DVD, Cd and partitions that I
    > won't touch. Any tips and suggestions would be more than appreciated
    > when I get the system re-installed. Thanks everyone for your input.
    > --
    > Jim Macdonald <jimmmac@comcast.net>
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