Re: [SLE] Help with using rpm
From: Marius Roets (Marius.Roets_at_eskom.co.za)
Date: 07/29/03
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:13:07 +0200 To: <Joe_Morris@ntm.org>, <suse-linux-e@suse.com>
Thanks Joe,
This is more info than I could find, and suddenly all makes sense. In the documentation I always skip the part about creating your own rpm's because I didn't think that relevant to what I want to do. This includes the parts about spec files etc. I see however that this is closely related to building src rpm's. I am sure I now know enough to make sense of the man pages and howto's.
Thanks a lot, you have helped a lot.
Regards
Marius Roets
>>> "Joe Morris (NTM)" <Joe_Morris@ntm.org> 28/07/2003 16:21:03 >>>
Marius Roets wrote, On 07/28/2003 09:23 PM:
>I'm an old fashioned type of guy that likes to use the tarball method for making and installing software. I am however slowly coming over to the rpm way of doing things. I like the idea of having a central repository where you can see what you have on your system, and manipulate it from there.
>
You can use this method with checkinstall and get both. You can
onfigure and make as normal, but instead of make install, use
checkinstall instead. If you configure /etc/checkinstallrc first, you
can have very easy installs, basically only giving a description and
checking the defaults. It works great for me, and it is on the CDs/DVD.
>The reason I mostly stay away from rpm's is that I don't know how to compile the source versions. I often need to change the configuration before compiling which is traditionally done with options to ./configure. I don't know how to this with rpm. In fact, I know very little about how the source rpm's work, and I haven't been able to find a decent tutorial on this subject.
>
>
You would do this for a src.rpm by editing the spec file in
/usr/src/packages/SPECS. In this, especially if it is a SuSE src.rpm,
you will find a listing of what packages you will need to "compile" the
package, and you will find a configure line that sounds like you are
familiar with. You could make the changes there and 'customize' the rpm
for your specs (no pun intended).
>I'd like to know things like how to compile src rpm's,
>
rpm -bb --target=ix86 xxx.spec (replace x's to fit your machine type and
spec name. this will produce an optimized rpm, finally found in
/usr/src/packages/RPMS/ix86)
>how to change the code,
>
Make or find a patch, add the patch to the sources line and add a patch
command. A good study is to install the source rpm for a package you
have to study how SuSE did it. That's how I learned a lot.
>how to change configure options and compiler options etc.
>
Edit the spec file's configure command.
> Also how does the src rpm relate to binary version. Do you need both, or just one of them. Do they give the same results?
>
The src rpm installs the sources, patches, etc in
/usr/src/packages/SOURCES and the spec file in /usr/src/packages/SPECS.
They are useless intil you build the binary and install. The binary
needs to be built, which is potentially easier with a src rpm (since all
decisions, command lines, etc, are given you in the spec file), but that
is the only one you need to be able to use the program.
>Unfortunately, the man pages are not very helpful in this regard and I would appreciate it if somebody can point me to tutorial that can answer these questions.
>
Sorry, I learned the hard way, trial, error, getting help. It works as
well. HTH.
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