Re: [SLE] Does anyone know anything about abuse.nl.easynet.net????

From: Paul Varner (suse-linux-e_at_varnerfamily.org)
Date: 09/05/03

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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:28:21 -0500

    Tom Nielsen wrote:
    >> You are not going to win that battle. It is their server and their
    rules.
    >> You are on the blocklist for the same reason that I am, there are way too
    >> many unsecured machines on the Verizon DSL network that are being abused
    to
    >> send spam, etc. The easiest way to get around the blocks is to configure
    >> your outgoing mail to go through Verizon's mail server. I don't remember
    >> the exact steps, but I was able to configure it using YaST2 without any
    >> issues. The other way around the blocklist is to pay Verizon for a
    >> business class connection and have then configure DNS and rDNS (The
    >> reverse DNS is actually the most important one) to point to the
    >> neuro-logic.com domain.
    >
    >
    > Paul - I'm running Verizon Business DSL and the business class dsl does
    > not come with email options. I was sending email through my webhost, but
    > just setup an email server and now shoot it out from here rather than
    > going through my webhost. So neuro-logic.com points to my webhosting
    > company. So I'm not sure if what you have said can be done???

    I couldn't tell you who to work with, but again to get around it, you would
    have to get DNS and rDNS configured so that the IP address of the DSL line
    is associated with a hostname in the neuro-logic.com domain. Since you
    don't have email from Verizon, the other thing is to setup the mail server
    to relay through the web hosting mail server. I don't know postfix well
    enough, but in sendmail, you can configure it to send mail for certain
    domains through a third party mail server. So, in this specific case, you
    could configure the local mail server to send all mail destined for
    linuxmail.org through your web hosts mail server.

    > The funny part of this whole thing is that the only place that has
    > rejected my email is linuxmail.org, my personal account. I work with
    > huge companies all over the world as well as intelligence organizations
    > and the little company out of the Netherlands is blocking me from my own
    > personal account. ???? At least I got them to remove me. I find the real
    > interesting part is that they don't check to see if someone is a spammer
    > first, but just block a whole range of IPs then make people argue their
    > case.

    That is because linuxmail.org is hosted and supported by Outblaze. Outblaze
    is one of the most vehemently anti-spam email companies around and use
    several blocklists in blocking the incoming spam. The easynet.nl blocklist
    that had you listed is just one of those lists. Again, though the reason
    that your IP was on the list is because of the sheer amounts of unsecured
    machines on the Verizon DSL network (my messages file(s) are huge from the
    firewall entries from compromised boxes on Verizon DSL trying to infect me
    with the latest virus, send me popup spam, portscanning, ...) I don't have
    a business class DSL line and I am on a dynamic IP address and I am not
    supposed to be running servers on my machine. The DNS entry for my IP
    address looks practically identical to the entry for your IP address. Since
    it is impossible to distingish my IP address from yours, it is easier to
    block the whole network and then whitelist the good addresses as the
    complaints come in. I can also tell you that the attitude that was
    displayed to you comes from listening to many other people complain that
    they are interfering with their god given right to send email. That is not
    true, being able to use the Internet is not a right, it is a priviledge that
    has been granted and funded by many different companies and governments.
    The Internet is a collection of private networks that have agreed to
    inter-connect with one another, and those networks are private property.
    Therefore, as I said, it is their server/network and their rules. If they
    don't want to accept email or network traffic from you, that is their choice
    to make not mine, yours, or anyone elses. As an aside, you are probably
    blocked from sending email to AOL directly as well. They are another
    company that has decided that they don't want email that has originated from
    a DSL or Cable connection.

    Regards,
    Paul 

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