Re: [SLE] Something needs done about OT posting
From: Christopher Mahmood (ckm_at_suse.com)
Date: 10/06/03
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:03:33 -0700 To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
* David Krider (david@davidkrider.com) [031004 20:11]:
> Whenever these sorts of threads rear their heads on this list, people
> get apoplectic, and tell the posters to go to the OT list. Well, I did,
> for several months, and I found the list to be tiresomely immature. The
> list is made up of all the hard-core pro-SuSE folks that got told to
> take it elsewhere, and they wind up talking about... ANYthing. I guess
> some people will interpret "OT" that way, but I just expected "suse-ot"
> to still at least be *tangentially* related to... SuSE! What a concept!
So you bring up a meta-off-topic thread here.
> It seems that there is NO place for the discussions I want to have, and
> I think this is a disservice to the SuSE community. The Red Hat lists
> were fantastic. Many Red Hat people were active, and many more trolled.
> I see ckm all the time here, but he's apparently the SuSE liason for the
> list, because he's the only one (who at least posts from a suse.com
> account).
I run lists.suse.com but there are other SuSE people here as well
(time permitting).
> I wish this list would grow up. It's a high-volume list. What's the harm
> in having a few more messages if someone wants to talk about Red Hat or
> Microsoft? But, no. Within a few posts, everyone is told to take it to
> the OT list.
Because of the SCO noise (yes, it was noise) long-time contributors
to this list were leaving or thinking about leaving in droves. I'd
rather have one Anders Johansson than 500 subscribers who want to
talk about SCO or the latest MS skulduggery.
> Unfortunately, the discussions of these sorts of topics on
> that list were of little value because no one espoused a different point
> of view. It was just cheering for the home team. There's also an
> inordinate amount of chatter that boils down to reposts of Slashdot and
> memepool. Unfortunately, my request to keep *that* list at least related
> to Linux, if not SuSE, was met with flames.
I think, after four months, it's clear from the fact that only about
100 people have subscribed to suse-ot (many from suse-linux) that
people generally aren't interested in these off-topic discussions.
In any case, the list is there and it's what you make it.
> So what's the bottom line here? Are the self-appointed moderators on
> this list telling me to talk about SuSE's strategy and positioning over
> on the Debian and Red Hat lists? Because there sure doesn't seem to be a
> worthwhile venue being offered by suse.com.
All of our lists with the exception of suse-ot, and this is clearly stated
when you subscribe, are for technical discussions. As I wrote in
the FAQ there are plenty of other places more suitable for these
sorts of non-technical discussions, please go use them.
> Either some people need to "get over it" on this list, or we need,
> simply, ot@suse.com, and to split non-Linux traffic from the suse-ot
> list.
Yes, you do need to get over it--off-topic discussions are not
welcome here and hopefully the 'self-appointed' moderators as you
call them will continue to do the great service that they have been.
followup-to set appropriately,
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