Re: [SLE] so OT it hurts...Merry Christmas!

From: mwafkowski (mwafkowski_at_osheaven.net)
Date: 12/24/03

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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 04:23:35 -0500

    To the original poster et al:

    *** You, *** Your Mother and *** the Hole you and your subhuman
    compatriots crawled out of...

    MRW

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "William G. Westfall" <wgwestfall1@hotpop.com>
    To: "Stephen Villano" <steve@LWR.yi.org>
    Cc: "Suse-Linux-E@Suse. Com (E-mail)" <suse-linux-e@suse.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 3:56 AM
    Subject: RE: [SLE] so OT it hurts...Merry Christmas!

    > You didn't read it man... Your reply was in english not german!
    >
    > On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 00:11, Stephen Villano wrote:
    >
    > > I *REALLY* feel your pain. Especially around the ribs from the belly
    > > laughs...
    > > Been saying much of the same for years. Probably why I haven't been
    promoted
    > > as I'm not "progressive". I come from a much older Army. The one that
    meets
    > > the enemy and kills the hell out of them, thereby not having any more
    > > enemies (or at least the few remaining are sufficiently frightened as to
    not
    > > cause the nation any trouble).
    > > That doesn't mean I want to go to war "at the drop of a hat", I'm a
    > > professional. As such there must be sufficient reason to wish to break
    the
    > > peace. I'll advise against an ill conceived military action. I will
    follow
    > > orders, but any objection will be quite well documented...
    > > Frankly, professional soldiers are the *LAST* people who wish to visit
    harm
    > > against another human. However, once the necessity is present visit said
    > > harm with vehemence.
    > > I've shaken hands and tipped back a drink with an officer who some
    > > years before was shooting at me as we are no longer dire enemies. We
    were
    > > both professionals and acknowledged that past was past, we were both
    doing
    > > our jobs for our respective nations.
    > > Has our nation done wrong in the past? Will it do so again in the
    > > future? How about a simpler question: Are we human?
    > > We'll make mistakes. We made some MAJOR ones in the past, current events
    are
    > > the direct result of some of them. I'm certain we'll make them in the
    > > future, we haven't stopped being human.
    > > The second biggest test is what we'll do about them in between to
    prevent
    > > another disaster. The biggest test is what we'll do about them if we
    *CAN'T*
    > > prevent another disaster.
    > > I've found that you can tell a LOT more about a person NOT when things
    are
    > > at their best, but indeed when things are at their absolute worst.
    > > Now if only we could learn as a species to bring the best of ourselves
    > > displayed during a disaster forward to our normal existence...
    > >
    > > Sorry for the long OT bit, just HAD to vent...
    > >
    > > Closer to topic: 9.0 is the best thing to come out since they put
    handles on
    > > popsicles.
    > > I am a bit confused though if the sparc platform is available in a
    current
    > > version...
    > >
    > > Gonna try playing with the 2.6 kernel as soon as I can shoehorn in some
    time
    > > on my calendar...
    > >
    > > Happy holidays to all, for those who don't observe our holidays: Have a
    > > pleasant, peaceful and prosperous year.
    > > And to those few who can't even observe the latter: Welcome to my
    world...
    > > ;)
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: William G. Westfall [mailto:wgwestfall1@hotpop.com]
    > > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 1:42 AM
    > > To: suse-linux-e@lists.suse.com
    > > Subject: [SLE] so OT it hurts...Merry Christmas!
    > >
    > >
    > > General speaks out
    > >
    > > Merry Christmas;
    > >
    > > I thought that you might enjoy quoting General Hawley over the holidays.
    > > This four-star says it pretty well.
    > >
    > >
    > > For those who don't know General Hawley, he's a newly retired USAF
    > > 4-star general. He commanded the USAF Air Combat Command [our front-line
    > > fighters and bombers]. The Command headquarters is at Langley AFB, VA.
    > > General Hawley is now retired and no longer required to be politically
    > > correct. His short speech is very much to the point. The following are
    > > excerpts:
    > >
    > >
    > > "Since the attack [9-11], I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such
    > > surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too.
    > >
    > > "Here they are:
    > >
    > > 1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative." Listen
    > > carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me
    > > now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't
    > > mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy
    > > on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country
    > > has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be
    > > the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in
    > > history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what
    > > happens.
    > >
    > > 2) "Violence only leads to more violence." This one is so stupid you
    > > usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it.
    > > Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already:
    > > Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky,
    > > half-measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully
    > > thought-through, professional, well-executed violence never leads to
    > > more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead.
    > > That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "re-educated," not "nurtured
    > > back into the bosom of love." Dead. D-E --Well, you get the idea.
    > >
    > > 3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have failed us."
    > > For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the
    > > ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not
    > > protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee
    > > Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided
    > > that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy
    > > satellites. "After all (they reasoned), you can see a license plate from
    > > 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a
    > > license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans
    > > is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we
    > > bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the
    > > really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans
    > > into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks
    > > like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a
    > > coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet
    > > that bin Laden fella. "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving
    > > the bad guys a story they'll be telling for years.
    > >
    > > 4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at
    > > us." Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a
    > > desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than
    > > Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless
    > > people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in
    > > power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes
    > > into the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew
    > > this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching
    > > against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any
    > > cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend
    > > more time drinking. It's the same today.
    > >
    > > 5) "Any profiling is racial profiling." Who's killing us here, the
    > > Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an
    > > article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden
    > > family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff,
    > > never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm
    > > crushed. Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are the World" for
    > > a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor
    > > in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and
    > > turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't
    > > offend them."
    > >
    > > So here's what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget our murdered
    > > brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get away with their
    > > immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's political
    > > science professor says, we didn't start this. Have you seen that bumper
    > > sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "No
    > > More Pearl Harbors."
    > 

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