Re: [SLE] Gaim Misbehaving Again
From: Charles Kunce (ckunce_at_nycap.rr.com)
Date: 02/04/04
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To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:26:35 -0500
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 12:05, Anders Johansson wrote:
> I'm beginning to think Microsoft was right: as soon as linux desktop use
> hits a high enough number we're going to have the same virus problem as
> they do
Don't totally agree. Since Apache, which is open source has about two thirds
of the web servers (netcraft.com) and has almost none of the worms and virii,
I don't think the comparison between open source and Microsoft is valid.
I think there are two problems.
1) The inevitable bugs in any complex software. I've seen and written
programs of only a few hundred lines with stupid things in them despite my
best efforts. These seem to be patched pretty quickly in Linux land.
2) The "ya can't always get it all in one place all the time for Linux" which
confuses the h_ll out of folks that don't know the inner workings. I'd like
to upgrade to the latest and greatest _with_ security patches (SUSE 8.2
version is very unstable and missing features), however, when compiling the
source, I found I needed GTK+2.0 (IIRC that's the error.). Packman didn't
have anything I could see that would help. James' fine repository of RPMs
only covers 9.0 as he does have a life. I have to figure out:
a) Where do I get GTK+2.0? Which RPM or set of RPMs get me what I need.
b) If I install GTK+2.0, do I hose my present system? I only have one and
can't afford for it to be down while I futz with these things.
c) Is there a patch for the version I'm running (0.72) and how the blue
blazes do I apply it since I installed it from an RPM?
d) Can I afford to use software with a known hole in it? (That's why I got
away from Windows was to avoid security holes)
For the price (I bought a boxed set), SUSE Linux is great, so don't ask me if
I'd like some cheese and crackers with my whine. I knew there would be days
like this. This kind of stuff will help keep folks who really haven't gotten
their feet very wet from upgrading and help bolster the idea that Linux isn't
that much better than Windows. It will scare the living daylights out of
Grandma and Grandpa. Answers to that kind of stuff are what I hope the list
is for, otherwise I would not have opened my big mouth. Problem is, not
everybody joins lists and as such, sooner or later something will cause folks
in Linux land to get burned. I don't have any suggestions on how to fix that.
BTW any help on the above questions would be appreciated as well as any hints
on options needed to compile Gaim 0.75 for SUSE 8.2. I've already gotten a
lot of very good information off of the list.
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