Re: [SLE] Mplayer, rpm's for SuSE?

From: Joe Polk (listuser_at_javelinux.com)
Date: 02/13/04

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    To: BandiPat <penguin0601@earthlink.net>, suse-linux-e@suse.com
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:07:16 -0400

    Lee, you're logic may apply to the current situation and to development
    machines but if Linux is going to fly on the desktop Brett's point is well
    taken. I should't have to recompile, pray, beg, plead, etc. to get something
    going that is ubiquitous in the "real world." That has to change. I am more
    than willing to do the things you're saying and you're right. Right now, that
    is our lot and we have to do this to get things to work. But many of these
    things have been issues for some 4 years now. Progress HAS to be made. If
    you're willing to say "Hey, I like compiling and everyone should just learn
    to compile" then understand Linux will remain right where it is and we'll all
    piss and moan about M$ the rest of our lives. I get your point, and I
    understand where you're coming from. But understand all Brett is saying
    is "when is this going to get better" and that's valid. I've seen menu items
    that just don't work on a distro. I've seen items within apps that don't.
    Open RealPlayer and goto the Content menu. By default, not a damn thing opens
    there. This should not happen. Someone should sit down and open everything on
    a menu or remove it before shipping the product. There's alot of things that
    are not "compile or not compile" issues. Rather, they are "polish this" or be
    prepared to hear Windows users and newbies decry the time it takes to get it
    working. We're not talking about a compler or some complicated application.
    It's a friggin' video player.

    <<JAV>>

    ---------- Original Message -----------
    From: BandiPat <penguin0601@earthlink.net>
    To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
    Sent: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:29:11 -0500
    Subject: Re: [SLE] Mplayer, rpm's for SuSE?

    > On Thursday 12 February 2004 10:02 pm, Brett Russ wrote:
    > > Dare I say that the install process below is (no offense to David)
    > > *insane* and things like this are reasons Linux isn't winning over
    > > people who don't enjoy this? I mean, if you want to hand install
    > > things with tarballs and such you can but I thought the whole point
    > > of apt was so you didn't have to get your hands dirty.
    > >
    > > I was following this thread because I recently tried and failed to
    > > view an mpg video clip from my friend's Sony P9 digicam and an avi
    > > clip from my Canon S400 digicam using every stock video player in
    > > SuSE 9.0. Then I read the below and my jaw dropped.
    > >
    > > I could do it but *why do we have to jump through so many hoops* to
    > > accomplish such a simple task as viewing a digital video clip? And
    > > I'm not even sure if mplayer would do it for me. Sometimes you just
    > > want to be productive rather than spend all your time fighting with
    > > logistics. Am I wrong?
    > >
    > > frustrated,
    > > Brett
    > ==========
    >
    > The only "hoop" you have to jump through is the one that turns your
    > brain on! There are programs available, installed by SuSE 9.0, that
    > you can use without installing anything else. Of course, one should
    > read the manuals that come with their package to help them know
    > about these. If one is new to the process, a little research is
    > usually in order, don't you think?
    >
    > Now if you want something better, more elaborate to use, you install
    > another program, nothing less, nothing more than you would do for
    > any other OS! Be reasonable and try to show that you know a little
    > about computers please. Put your frustration into something that
    > helps you understand and solve your problem, not whining about it here.
    >
    > Sound pretty harsh? That comes from the frustration of some of us
    > that tire of reading such mails, because the writer feels whining
    > produces more results than figuring out the problem.
    >
    > also frustrated, but no offense intended, :o)
    > Lee
    >
    > xmms
    > kaffeine/xine
    >
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