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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:45:05 -0500

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On Tuesday 17 February 2004 14:53, c_nelson77 wrote:
> Ok here is a little(BIG) Rant I have w/ Linux/SUSE, actualy 5 . .
>
> 1. Why do I have to upgrade the entire system just to get a new version of
> an app? k3b, gaim, etc? I upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0 just so I can have

You don't have to. Go ahead and upgrade only the applications you want.
Download the source, compile and install it. What's that? You don't want to
do it yourself? You want SuSE to do it for you?! Ahh, sure, just pay them
money for the next release...

> working apps. I can't even easily upgrade KDE to 3.2 using SuSE provided
> RPM's because it requires that I have already upgraded my KDE outside of
> what SUSE provides me? wtf? All I want is a working app like k3b, gaim,
> mozilla, kmail, etc. I don't care about the 1000000's of dependancies.
>
> 2. Why can I not upgrade the majority of thigns with YOU? Thank god someone
> I'm not paying is providing updates via http://packman.links2linux.org/ and
> http://www.usr-local-bin.org/ . beleave it or not, but I bought 9.0 for 2
> reasons. Using a non broken versions of an IM client (GAIM), and cd burning
> software(k3b).
>

You didn't have to, all you had to do is go download those apps somewhere and
install them. Oh, wait. You can't do it, I forgot. I guess you'll have to pay
someone then.

> 3. Why is KDE & apps so slow? Yes I said slow. 384 ram, 9g 10k scsi hd,
> matrox g400, AMD 850. And is is slower than XP on a 600mhz vodoo3 3000, 256
> ram system. Slow, meaning windows to come up, heck yast takes longer to
> come up than word on windows!
>

XP? X-Men? X-files? Huh?

> 4. What is the deal with the f-d up sound? Many diff soudn cards are
> broken, and from talking with others in linux, they all are. Example.
> KSirc, Gaim, and listening to mp3's or watchign a movie, game, etc. Does
> not work. Heck gaim sounds by itself bearly works. Most of the time, sounds
> do not get played. And people tell me thats normal linux sound. (right now,
> using a SB AWE 64, ISA(have used built in sound, santa cruze, sb 16,
> aureal) Something MS has had no problems with since NT.
>

Buddy, if you were so happy with NT, why the heck are you using SuSE?

> 5. Umm hellow? Why bother to provide a broken GAIM? Yes, it is broken,
> yahoo, icq, and msn do not work on anything that ancient. Heck if i
> rememebr right, gaim .7x was out before SuSE 9.0. Sorry but kopete is ugly
> as hell, and doesn't do basic things. Why bother making it, just help make
> gaim (or other) work better.
>

SuSE doesn't make GAIM. Nor kopete.

[...]

> P.P.S. RPM doesn;t work, linux needs a registry (excluding saved
> settings/info from apps) where 1 RPM many linux distros, mandy versions.
> You get this on thing working like this, it will be far easier makign
> things "Just Work".

... I have no words ...

>
> PPPS, never use resierfs. horrible support. has no way to deal with bad
> blocks. Even dos has that.
>
> PPPPS sorry for all the post scripts.

PSs are the least of your problems, pal...

Now, the only sincere piece of advice I have for you. In Linux you have to
opt. If you want stability and easy of use, what you do is you go to a distro
where there are a bunch of smart guys testing things and making sure they
work and simplifying the whole process for you. Now, if you want bleeding
edge, pick a distro that puts enphasis on bleeding edge, not SuSE. It may not
be as stable, and usually the responsability for keeping the system working
well is more yours the theirs. Suggestion: gentoo seems like a great distro
for you, in that aspect. I've been seriously considering it for a second
machine.

Good luck.
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