Re: [SLE] SL9.1 Kprinter:WARNING
From: Matt T. (Matt_at_Boons.net)
Date: 07/21/04
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To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:33:37 +0700
Hi Doug,
let me recommend you to read in the suse manuals the chapters about printing.
This will help you from getting stuck in some misunderstandings. based on
what I understood so far, I will try to give you some comments and answers
below:
Using Suse, you *install* your printers using the YAST tool (have a look in
your menu, under "systems"), and *not* with kprinter. Kprinter is used to
print, and not to install.
Yast usually installs the CUPS printing system to help you manage printing,
and kprinter is then showing you all what is available there = all you have
installed before.
Now if you want to print from your application, the application does let you
select a(n installed) printer, to which it does print.
Using kde apps, such as kword, you see the list of installed printers and you
can choose to which to print to. Klicking on print in kde apps opens directly
kprinter.
Using non-kde apps, such as acroread (the Adobe Acrobat reader) or openoffice,
you can see whatever printer they see directly, and also a virtual printer:
kprinter, which lets non-kde programs use the comfortable kde printing
system. You can select it in your application, as if it would be a real
printer. Apparently that is what you have done in acroread.
After printing from your app to kprinter, the kprinter app opens and lets you
select the real printers ( the ones which you have installed before with
yast, see above).
So if you want to see more printers to select from, you need to install them
first with yast. Only then you can see and select them in kprinter.
kprinter is a program. By doing cat kprinter you look at the compiled code of
it, which is of course not making sense. Programs are supposed to run, not to
get looked at ;-)
About the speed of printing, there are fast and there are slow drivers.
Sometimes there are more than one driver for the same printer, and there can
be huge differences in the speed, and in the quality.
Usually yast defaults to the recommended driver, but there might be other
choices. Yast lets you select and test print, so you can see the speed and
quality when you install them, and you can select the one which is the best
for you, or install all of them.
HTH,
Matt
On Wednesday 21 July 2004 05:16, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 July 2004 15:40, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>
> OK, I have trimmed the quotes. Fair dinkum, as the Aussies say.
>
> Now, since I cannot read kprinter, how do I know what printers are
> supported in kprinter? When I installed 9.1, I definitely had the 2200d
> connected, and I'm almost certain I had my HP 970CXi color printer
> connected, for the specific purpose of having YAST recognize them
> and configure them. I haven't used the color printer on this
> machine under Linux as yet; it is connected to an old Windows machine
> that I use for less frivolous purposes. (No, I don't think learning a
> 'nix is exactly frivolous, but perhaps for a retired engineer it is.)
>
> > How many printers do you have in kprinter? Is the printer you
> > select in kprinter the same one you select "in kprinter" when you
> > print from acroread to kprinter?
>
> /Not sure how to interpret your question. The command in the
> "Print" window is not "in kprinter" but just "kprinter"
> There is a little diamond check that can be turned on or off, and one
> can hi-lite the "kprinter", but what should one type in instead,
> assuming it is permitted?
>
> For further information, I have found that some graphics, and I
> don't know if they were in .pdf format or with color, but I think so,
> to be _extremely_ slow to print--on the order of 10 minutes.
> Of course the HPLJ printer only can _do_ b/w.
>
> The file I got the warning on is all black and white. It printed fairly
> quickly. Of course, the printer only does b/w, but I should think much
> better print times from SuSE.
>
> Snowed in July --doug
>
> > kprinter is, in effect, a fliter between your application and printer
> > that formats the print. It can call filters which you designate in
> > the gui. You do *not* need kprinter to print. You can print to lp,
> > lpr, xpp, and others.
> >
> > note: I have not requested that you trim your quotes.
> > --
> > Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
> > http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org
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