Re: [SLE] [General] Recomended Dual CPU system
From: Danny Sauer (suse-linux-e.suselists_at_danny.teleologic.net)
Date: 09/17/04
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:13:02 -0500 To: SuSE List <suse-linux-e@suse.com>
BandiPat wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] [General] Recomended Dual CPU system' on Thu, Sep 16 at 23:03:
> On Thursday 16 September 2004 11:38 pm, Doug B wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 September 2004 10:25 pm, BandiPat wrote:
> > > =============
> > >
> > > Well, it's not just attitude with Asus, they specifically don't
> > > like Linux and make their motherboards not to like Linux. That was
> > > in the article. That speaks pretty strongly how likely their
> > > boards are to be incompatible with Linux. Sorry, I don't remember
> > > the url to give you.
> > >
> > > I think you will be hard pressed to find a better 64bit x86 cpu
> > > than
> >
> > Would this be the one?
> >
> > http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html
> >
> > Doug
> ==========
>
> Yep, I believe that is it Doug, thanks!
Did you read the article? The network interface didn't work properly
under Linux or Windows. The article just whines a bunch about how Asus
has an official "we don't support OSS Operating Systems" position. If
you look at Asus' site, however, you'll find Linux drivers for most of
the board components that don't have drivers already built in to the
Linux kernel - including that network device. If the *hardware* worked,
the network device would work.
Anyway, the article is badly written, and states over and over again
that Asus hates Linux. Their one fact to back that *opinion* up is a
secondhand report from an unnamed OEM, and that one report states that
a network interface didn't work properly at all under any OS that they
tried, including Windows, which Asus supposedly "supports". To counter
that, perhaps I'll post to a SuSE user's group list and mention that every
single Asus board I've ever purchased has come with a driver CD. Each
and every one of those CDs has had a folder named "linux". Therefore,
*I* think that Asus does approve of Linux, and puts some effort into
helping the Linux users on their way to getting the board working.
They don't provide official, free-of-charge phone support to the hundreds
of possible combinations of Open Sourced software, but honestly, that
would cost them lots of money and make them almost none. Just read
this list for a while to see all of the tech suport questions that
leave out vital details like "I changed something I shouldn't have",
and imagine that you have to train someone to handle those things for
every distribution of Linux, as well as the BSDs, AtheOS, Haiku, and
the heap of other free/open OSs out there.
Now, if they wouldn't provide drivers or hardware specs, that'd be a
different story. I'll bet several people still use nVidia video cards,
even though those drivers are officially unsupported...
--Danny
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