Re: [SLE] new v9.2 is out

From: Allen (gorebofh_at_comcast.net)
Date: 10/12/04

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    Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:34:12 -0400
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    On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 01:32:17PM -0500, Danny Sauer wrote:
    > Last off-topic post here (sorry to those who don't care):
    >
    > John wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] new v9.2 is out' on Tue, Oct 12 at 12:51:
    > [...]
    > > To Danny Sauer,et al: Your credentials are not in question, only the
    > > fact that ALL versions of Mozilla/Netscape/Firebird and others are very,
    > > very related in the code used to compile them! That cannot be denied,
    >
    > And it's not denied. In fact, it's explicitly listed several times in
    > the message that you replied to.
    >
    > > but AOL, if it even contributes to the Mozilla.org, is only one of many
    > > companies that do, and I wonder why you did not mention them?
    >
    > If you go to mozilla.org, click "about", and read about the mozilla
    > foundation, you'll see that AOL's Netscape division is the only contributor
    > listed. I wonder why they don't list the other 500+ contributors?
    >
    > > If you use
    > > Linux, the Mozilla based browsers are the only real secure way to go.
    > > Sure you could use Wine and a MSFT product, but why?
    >
    > I don't know. You're the only one suggesting that. I merely mentioned
    > that Netscape is dead. Netscape is a company that makes a browser suite
    > called Communicator. The current release of Communicator is little more
    > than a skin on top of a browser that's made by a different company - The
    > Mozilla Foundation. Netscape is not literally dead, but they're effectively
    > irrelevant, because all of the useful development is happening at The
    > Mozilla Foundation.
    >
    > > When you do so, all
    > > you are doing is using up cpu overhead you could have used for something
    > > else, plus you open yourself to all kinds of viruses and hackers!! If
    > > you use a laptop, this is even more pronounced a problem! Danny Sauer, I
    > > had hoped to ask you for some help on Linux, but it is obvious that is a
    > > waste of time, and I can guarantee you there are thousands of people on
    > > Linux that use Mozilla based products! Your credentials, obviously, do
    > > not cover accounting for total use of a product! :-(
    >
    > If you had read my message, you would have noticed that I use Firefox on
    > a daily basis. I'm the reason that Firefox is the standard browser on
    > each and every Windows, Mac, and Linux workstation at my place of employ.
    > I have personally installed mozilla-based browsers on hundreds of machines.
    > "Creating Applications with Mozilla" is open on my desk right now. You
    > would be hard-pressed to find someone who pushes Mozilla more than me.
    > My love and respect for the gecko rendering engine + mozilla application
    > platform in no way relates to the viability of the Netscape division of
    > AOL, though. Not that I expect you to understand, but I figured I'd give
    > you another chance. Everyone gets confused once in a while.
    >
    > As this has regressed into little more than a flame, though, this marks
    > the end of my participation in this discussion. If you, John, still have
    > a Linux question that you think I'd specifically be of help with, do feel
    > free to ask. I will not hold earlier confusions against you.
    >
    > --Danny, who's exclusively used mozilla, on Linux, since the early beta
    > versions (before Netscape Communicator 6 was released)

    Heh, a good flame war once in a while is OK, it's good for letting it out as long as it doesn't get to serious.

    Anyway, I'm not trying to be a jack ass as some fo you are probably thinking, but good discussion is hard to come by sometimes.

    NP: KMFDM - WW3

    Good album. 

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